Economics and PE from memory?Originally Posted by scumdog
'crosed'??
Obviously spelling class was the one you wagged the most....
NEDWN VIII
Economics and PE from memory?'crosed'??
Obviously spelling class was the one you wagged the most....
One hell of a ride.
Anarchic Wild Child
I'm sorry but I think this (bullshit) law was passed by Anne Tolley and the National party ...This is my major gripe about the socialist "State owns everything" concept. (yes, even "your" children)
The State makes all the rules, tells parents how why when and what to do to raise the children, usurping all of the authority and making parents powerless in the children's eyes.
Then when all the socialist State theories go to shit, they hand the child responsibility back to the parent/family/etc and "blame them" for the failure! FFS!
The "State" (represented by people like Sue Bradford et al) is never wrong, when all else fails, just prosecute the Grandma that will do it every time!
Socialism ... all care taken, no responsibility, just make another law or rule that doesn't work and blame someone else!
It's a bullshit law .. the Govt was told that and they (again) didn't listen ...
This is not the only case .. a solo mother was prosecuted a couple of months ago .. her son is Huge compared to her .. she has no chance of getting the shit to go to school .. and yet she was convicted and fined ..
Bullshit law ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
He can't toss it out .. he has to apply the law ... (whether it is bullshit or not ...)
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Just faidin away!
OK, it doesn't matter which party the people I refer to belong to, they are all of the same ilk, just lurking behind different labels!
A rose by any name is but a rose ... bullshit by any other name is still bullshit!
You are so right our law is full of bullshit like this!
New Zealand is always subject to socialist law because it is basically a socialist country inhabited by socialist thinking people that elect socialist governments because that's what they demand of their politicians!
Don't blame the stupid government, blame the stupid people!
Our Politicians disguise themselves to look like what the voter will vote for, once they garner enough votes, they just pick others that are really just clones of themselves to call a majority and form a government!
And for the voters? .... game over for another three years!MMP FFS!
Trying to be a good dog
It think its one of those:
'no tolerance'
'make an example of someone controversial'
(aspergers boy stealing lightbulbs in ChCh)
things........... to send out a strong message to the general public that no one will be spared.
Next would be if your child said fuck,shit or cunt, you may be prosecuted for offensive language.
That type of thing may encourage better parenting, which I suppose is the intention of the lawmakers
Churches are monuments to self importance
Forum whore
Being prosecuted isnt the same as being convicted and as all ways I'm sure there is a significant back story here.
yeah we can bang on about the state owning everything wah wah wah BUT there are a fuck load of people out there expecting the state to fuckin do everything thing for them as well so they dont have to get off their arses and do the right thing. Couple that in with a shit load of people with some very firm ideas about alternative child rearing yet not giving a flying fuck about the rights of others who are daily harrassed and inconvienenced by their little monsters...
Somewhere in the middle is the poor old tax payer paying for the morons at one end and the extra officials at the other... They are the ones that should be pissed off...
OK - so the 13 year old wont go to school? It was crap parenting in the first 13 years that caused this and I wonder who did that?
And before you get sniffy - yes - one of my kids was a shitty disruptive kid at school and yes - we are still unravelling our mistakes....
Forum whore
Oh - as for all the stuff about aspergers etc etc. yeah its tough and yeah it varies HUGELY from school to school, area to area but frankly we have found the state to be fantastically supportive of our multiple issues grandson who lives with us.
Its not ideal but its working and considering its all done at no cost to us we are very grateful.
Forum whore
Probably the childs birth parents, but most unlikely the childs great grandmother (who is not even the childs legal guardian)
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
Forum whore
Maybe - hard to tell in some culture... The girl may have been with here a long time.
Anyway - the story has been update..
'Mr Wood said prosecutions were a last resort and were considered when the truancy was ongoing, unjustified, persistent, parent-condoned and when all other attempts to return the pupil to regular attendance had been unsuccessful. '
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
1. Truancy has been unlawful for generations, this is nothing new. It hasn't been enforced much in the recent past.
2. If parents/guardians aren't ultimately responsible for their children...who is??
3. NZ has a serious problem with child neglect and abuse.
4. Completely contrary to the "nanny state" rants here, we actually don't have nearly enough public intervention in families.
5. In January 2011 the Minister was under such pressure she ordered a special enquiry into child abuse and some sad bleak cases have since come to light. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/mini...e-case-4003698
Including this one where the foster parents scrubbed the children with a wire brush - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5089...re-brush-abuse
In the face of that, do you really think we interfere in families too much?!
Just faidin away!
Yes I do!
The offenders committed those crimes, deal with those individuals and deal with "their" individual crimes!
Don't label everyone and force everyone else to be subjected to measures applicable to these criminals FFS!
Forum whore
Sorry - I'm confused... Isnt that what they are doing?
Just faidin away!
No, governments are just like school teachers, one kid commits are breach of rules so they apply a remedy across the board, punishing them all.
What we need is less government and someone with the balls to sort out those who need more, encouraging those that need less, to get on with their lives!
Maybe there are too many broken down school teachers in government!
GOOD ROADS, NUTHIN 2 RIDE
Bloody Nora....What about all the undiagnosed slightly autistics and ADHDers who just dont fit in the current paradigm, either are being bullied, or are bully's. Natural expression squashed and more repressed neurotic future addicts pumped out of the factory to not serve society, but be a drain through poor management
Forcing round pegs in square holes? More of the same shit from stupid monkeys forcing conformity, not acknowledging difference, and creating future criminals. Why dont the morons wake the fuck up.
The birth mother who isnt around as caregiver, is prolly fucked up somewhere too, cost the tax payer a fortune. Not learning by mistakes are they?
School work death. Euthanase the little shits and make them all the same. Create a future with 100% the same group think work robots and see where that will get you
Sad that the little girl is not getting a decent education, and I'm not talking conventional schooling
"Your talent determines what you can do. Your motivation determines how much you are willing to do. Your attitude determines how well you do it."
-Lou Holtz
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