Govt will move against Kronic 'within weeks'

[oneofsix]

Funny isn't it T, here you are fighting crime on behalf of the community but if you guy's were completely successful at it, you wouldn't have job!

Would you lose any sleep over that?

Personally if they want to fuck themselves up with substances let them do it!

If they break laws or annoy others as a result of it, charge them for that crime!

If they die as a result of it ... fucking good riddance!

there are always motorcyclists to keep him busy

[Shadowjack]

Personally if they want to fuck themselves up with substances let them do it! If they break laws or annoy others as a result of it, charge them for that crime! If they die as a result of it ... fucking good riddance!

In my more liberal hours, I tend to agree. With the proviso, however, that when those folks who, knowingly exercising their free will and personal responsibility, get themselves fucked-up on substances, they should not then come whining and moaning to the various Governmental health and support services when it all turns to tears. Our tax dollars at work, re-habbing (or not) the suckers...

[mashman]

In my more liberal hours, I tend to agree. With the proviso, however, that when those folks who, knowingly exercising their free will and personal responsibility, get themselves fucked-up on substances, they should not then come whining and moaning to the various Governmental health and support services when it all turns to tears. Our tax dollars at work, re-habbing (or not) the suckers...

I'm fine with that... as long as the same, you fucked yourself up treatment, goes for boozers too... after all, they're the ones clogging up the emergency rooms

[oldrider]

I'm fine with that... as long as the same, you fucked yourself up treatment, goes for boozers too... after all, they're the ones clogging up the emergency rooms

True!

Unfortunately if you had witnessed growing up with my generation, you would see that the booze attitude/problem was well under way then!

This generation's booze problem is the result of all the prohibition stuff that went on between and after the two world wars.

I don't think it's possible for those who were not there to realise what prohibition and then six o'clock closing was really like!

Prohibit something and even sane men will clamour to get it, just because they can defeat the prohibition!

I had an old uncle who didn't really want to drink but he would ride his old bike for ten miles in all weather just to go to the pub and "choose" to have a drink!

At the end of prohibition he never touched another drop until he died.

Stupid laws make criminals out of normally lawful citizens, once their virginity is broken it's only the degree of crime that changes!

[scissorhands]

True!

Unfortunately if you had witnessed growing up with my generation, you would see that the booze attitude/problem was well under way then!

This generation's booze problem is the result of all the prohibition stuff that went on between and after the two world wars.

I don't think it's possible for those who were not there to realise what prohibition and then six o'clock closing was really like!

Prohibit something and even sane men will clamour to get it, just because they can defeat the prohibition!

I had an old uncle who didn't really want to drink but he would ride his old bike for ten miles in all weather just to go to the pub and "choose" to have a drink!

At the end of prohibition he never touched another drop until he died.

Stupid laws make criminals out of normally lawful citizens, once their virginity is broken it's only the degree of crime that changes!

+10 full tank Oldy, WORD!

[oneofsix]

True!

Unfortunately if you had witnessed growing up with my generation, you would see that the booze attitude/problem was well under way then!

This generation's booze problem is the result of all the prohibition stuff that went on between and after the two world wars.

I don't think it's possible for those who were not there to realise what prohibition and then six o'clock closing was really like!

Prohibit something and even sane men will clamour to get it, just because they can defeat the prohibition!

I had an old uncle who didn't really want to drink but he would ride his old bike for ten miles in all weather just to go to the pub and "choose" to have a drink!

At the end of prohibition he never touched another drop until he died.

Stupid laws make criminals out of normally lawful citizens, once their virginity is broken it's only the degree of crime that changes!

Looks like Jim Anderson and few ALAC members have a lot to learn from you old fella.

[mashman]

True!

Unfortunately if you had witnessed growing up with my generation, you would see that the booze attitude/problem was well under way then!

This generation's booze problem is the result of all the prohibition stuff that went on between and after the two world wars.

I don't think it's possible for those who were not there to realise what prohibition and then six o'clock closing was really like!

Prohibit something and even sane men will clamour to get it, just because they can defeat the prohibition!

I had an old uncle who didn't really want to drink but he would ride his old bike for ten miles in all weather just to go to the pub and "choose" to have a drink!

At the end of prohibition he never touched another drop until he died.

Stupid laws make criminals out of normally lawful citizens, once their virginity is broken it's only the degree of crime that changes!

How times have changed eh. And after a few thousand years, look where we are. What an achievement.

[scumdog]

True!

Unfortunately if you had witnessed growing up with my generation, you would see that the booze attitude/problem was well under way then!

This generation's booze problem is the result of all the prohibition stuff that went on between and after the two world wars.

I don't think it's possible for those who were not there to realise what prohibition and then six o'clock closing was really like!

Prohibit something and even sane men will clamour to get it, just because they can defeat the prohibition!

I had an old uncle who didn't really want to drink but he would ride his old bike for ten miles in all weather just to go to the pub and "choose" to have a drink!

At the end of prohibition he never touched another drop until he died.

Stupid laws make criminals out of normally lawful citizens, once their virginity is broken it's only the degree of crime that changes!

So what you're saying is legalise the drugs and we'll 'only' have the same amount of problems we do with alcohol.???

Or have I got it wrong.

(Again?)

[mashman]

So what you're saying is legalise the drugs and we'll 'only' have the same amount of problems we do with alcohol.???

Or have I got it wrong.

(Again?)

They're all couch dwellers... they can't be arsed getting up to get beer from the fridge, let alone get their shit together long enough to head on out to commit some crime... and it ain't like drug crime will ever just go away... unless you allow people to choose for themselves of course. You never know, you may see a 25% reduction in alcohol related crime at the same time... guess we'll never know for sure.

[oldrider]

So what you're saying is legalise the drugs and we'll 'only' have the same amount of problems we do with alcohol.???

Or have I got it wrong.

(Again?)

Yes that's one part of it but then crack down on "actual" law breakers for the laws "they" break without passing blanket laws that punish those that "abide by the law"!

And sort out the laws that don't support the police and allow smart arse lawyers and piss weak judges to make a mockery of the police by letting criminals free to continue to wreak mayhem in the community!

And stop wasting time and money on treatment for idiots that continue to inflict damage to themselves through substance abuse, including alcohol, it's their choice!

Maybe then police would be able to concentrate on real police-able law and win back the respect of the public at large!

And don't try to tell me that what is happening today is working so if you want things to change, do something different!

It's like the blowfly on the window pane, no matter how hard he tries he just ain't going anywhere until he changes direction!

Hey, no one ever said it would be easy.

[scumdog]

Yes that's one part of it but then crack down on "actual" law breakers for the laws "they" break without passing blanket laws that punish those that "abide by the law"!

And sort out the laws that don't support the police and allow smart arse lawyers and piss weak judges to make a mockery of the police by letting criminals free to continue to wreak mayhem in the community!

And stop wasting time and money on treatment for idiots that continue to inflict damage to themselves through substance abuse, including alcohol, it's their choice!

Maybe then police would be able to concentrate on real police-able law and win back the respect of the public at large!.............

Good call senior citizen - I can see why you got so old!

[fuknKIWI]

If you banned or removed everything from reach some people would run round in circles until the got dizzy & fell over

[shrub]

Good old NZ government, if there's a problem, just 'ban' it!

-Indy

yeah, but you gotta admit it's been successful - hell, since they introduced the Misuse of Drugs Act in the 70s cannabis use has um, er, well. OK, then there was the prohibition era - banning alcohol meant that crime was ah, hmmm, err...

Well on the bright side Disgusted of Herne Bay will be happy that Something Is Being Done About It.

[oneofsix]

yeah, but you gotta admit it's been successful - hell, since they introduced the Misuse of Drugs Act in the 70s cannabis use has um, er, well. OK, then there was the prohibition era - banning alcohol meant that crime was ah, hmmm, err...

Well on the bright side Disgusted of Herne Bay will be happy that Something Is Being Done About It.

well put and Disgrusted of Herne Bay will always find something to bitch about

[shrub]

well put and Disgrusted of Herne Bay will always find something to bitch about

That's the main reason for many of the laws that Our Beloved Leaders impose on us - to demonstrate that they are Doing Something. It's also an important part of our social construction to create "others", and if you're ever bored i suggest reading Edward Said's book Orientalism. If we can identify people who are doing stuff we don't do, and declare that they are wrong for doing that, it makes us feel right.

Disgusted of Herne Bay needs people like boy racers and drug users to be placed outside of the law/social acceptability because they believe life is a binary and there cannot be right without wrong, and if they (who are different and are therefore other) are wrong, then Disgusted is right.