Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Opinions may vary, But there is only one that counts I supose.
And thats F5Daves,
F5dave Says Speedpro can use what ever rod he likes in his bucket. I agree
Dave also says he uses a cr80 one in his mb5 he said it was the bearing is the same part number MB5 or cr80
The weird thing is I can't find a seperate big end bearing Honda for the mb5 honda don't seem to list a big bearing for the MB5 only a complete crank mmmmmm.....
I wonder
I do realise that the cr80 ac one will fit though.
let the games begin
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
. . . and yet I'm not playing. Especially when I seem to be saying a lot of stuff out of context.
Think you'll find Honda discontinued a lot of spares for older bikes because they are kunts.
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Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Aw jeez dave you're taking all the fun out of reading this thread....
FWIW TKRJ list a rod kit for the MB100 - and list the bigend bearing separate too.
Whether you'd want one of their "clank pins" I'm not sure....
Whilst I agree with this and back when I worked at a large Honda dealership someone once built a complete Honda Dream form New old stock parts. Sadly this could not happen now and Honda readily discontinue parts now rather than the old policy of always making spares for any bike they ever made.
But please clear up these bits below because I can't understand how it can be right for you to use a cr80 big end but no one else to.
[/quote][quote]f5dave
my only point is that to be bucket legal these must be non competition parts. Sometimes you get lucky & there are road bikes that have good design cages in the sizes you want. Suzuki bearings don't seem to be that flash, at least on their older models. The mb bearing has been upgraded several times & is actually the same part as used on cr80s. However i am no expert on available sizes out there for common bikes
Dave ....Dave are you there Dave...
thought not
originally posted by husaberg
i thought parts were ok just weren't allowed to use gearbox or competion based engines.
I would have thought a big end bearing was ok?
Perhaps refresh yourself with the rules on mnz site. Parts are parts. If they come from competition engines then they aren't legal. Exception for pistons, ign, carb pipe.
so if one found a source of bearings that weren't specifically for a comp engine then that should be ok.f5dave
crumbs, i go away from the pc & this all blows up.
Husaberg i didn't 'attack' you at all, i just suggested you read the rules, so many seem to just go on heresay.
Now at this point i will have to admit that every time i've looked at those rules i've never read them that way. Now i have to agree that the 's' does seem to be an anomaly. Else why would the rules mention exclusions for pistons carbs etc?
Should someone put that through to mnz for an amendment? Or as wobbly says, you could use an rs barrel in an extreme case.
Anyway i agree lets keep clear of squabbling, i don't come here for that.
IF5Dave As far as Speedpro cheating -I have to say I never inferred that, I've pretty much known how he has built his engine for quite some time, as he does mine & there isn't anything queer in it I am aware of, just some carefully considered engineering.Speedpro
it's really fucking annoying being accused of cheating. To clarify - my big end pin is custom made by Heat Treatments. It has 20mm ends, a 22mm centre which is offset .75mm, and it is the same length as a standard MB100 pin. My MB100 crankshaft is modified to take the 1mm wider big end of the rod I selected out of the catalogue at Pete's. It may fit a competition engine but it wasn't listed as a rod for one. It was selected for it's dimensions in particular the 105mm centre-centre measurement. The big end bearing came with the rod as did the thrust washers. The little end is one I chose also for it's dimensions, it could fit any number of engines and was not listed as a replacement part for any particular engine. The piston is KT100, the little end pin is MB100 as are the circlips. The rings, and you have me here I think, are KT100. As they aren't one of the listed items that are "open" then I suppose I am cheating. Though, being allowed to use a piston but not the associated rings would seem to defeat the benefit of using the piston so typically I assume the intention of the rule would be to allow the matching rings to be used.
The problem is the intention of the rule and the way it has been interpreted by everybody until now and the exact wording which allows an alternative interpretation. If you are a bucket racer you know what the rules are. It may not be written perfectly but everybody knows what is meant and plays by the rules. Everybody I know and respect anyway.
My engine stroke is 1.5mm less than an MB100 due to the .75mm offset pin and has a 52.2mm bore. You can do the maths yourself. As if I'd build an engine and not know the capacity of it.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
This is getting a bit painfull, my understanding of the rules is this:
If you think somebody is cheating, find $100 go see the head shirang and protest, otherwise shut the fuck up.
If you think the rules are wrong write to MNZ
I think everyone is happy except Husaburg
My neighbours diary says I have boundary issues
that would be a wasted $100 go read the rules on submitting a protest
but I do think you are on to something
maby they should put up or shut up ( I dont think either is cheating )
and mailing fish to the states dosen't count
and you would actualy have to race buckets to make a protest
so I dont think we will get anywhere
I was only going fishing with this thread
and managed to catch an 11+ pager
now hows that
next I'm going to bag some motorbike shop and see how I get on
"Instructions are just the manufacturers opinion on how to install it" Tim Taylor of "Tool Time"
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"Instructions are just the manufacturers opinion on how to install it" Tim Taylor of "Tool Time"
“Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know.” - Cullen Hightower
I See your point Bucketsnbits for sale it's looking a bit dead
Thing I don't get with you and Bucketracers relationship.
I am not sure your relationship is purely platonic.:
As for the bucket racing if you don't see me at Mt Welly this weekend it's cause I live in the South Island dipshit
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
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