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Thread: How soon is too soon to level up from a 250?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post
    And therein lies the challenge - using finer increments to balance the machine.

    I'm certainly not suggesting jumping on a big bike and riding it like a lunatic.

    The top 4 inches determine what bike you should own.
    What he said.

    If you're comfortable on the 250, and can exercise some restraint on a bigger bike while you learn it, then ride some bikes and see if it feels right. If not, stay where you are.

    As for carrying a pillion, a bigger bike will make it easier for you both (the novelty of a 250 will wear off pretty quickly), and you'll need to think ahead more to avoid banging helmets and frantic grabs from the back.

    If you know someone that pillions regularly it might help to have your passenger talk to them about being on the back of a bike, and it wouldn't hurt if you 'borrowed' someone elses pillion to get a feel for how it works with someone that's comfortable on the back.
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    [QUOTE=schrodingers cat;1130090734]
    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    tic.

    The top 4 inches determine what bike you should own.
    Thats a bit 'high brow' for us aucklanders......
    Many jaffas cannot muster 4 inches let alone 4 at the top....

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    Get a 600 now but keep the 250 as well. I have both and find the 250 is much more fun in town. Lighter, more fun working the minimal power, fun to flick around. Most importantly for me I get 400km per tank from the 250 and 200km from the 650. The tanks are the same size... At the end of the day it's like what everyone else said. An idiot is an idiot no matter what size bike they ride. The life expectancy of said idiot on a 600 is significantly lower though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    some people should never even upgrade from a GN250. . .
    If you are at the point where you feel good on your bike thats great, but also consider other factors.
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    it is very easy to overestimate your ability and skill level.

    Do some other upskilling etc too. just my $0.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    If you're comfortable on the 250, and can exercise some restraint on a bigger bike while you learn it, then ride some bikes and see if it feels right. If not, stay where you are.
    The thing with this is that a more powerful bike is very unlikely to feel "wrong". I don't know of anyone who has ever ridden a bike and thought "Hmm, this could do with a little less power". You're probably not going to realise you've overstepped your ability until it's too late.

    OP, you may well be capable of handling a bigger bike sensibly and anything bigger than a 250 will be a better two up tourer. But you're certainly not an experienced rider and I doubt there's any pressing need to go touring with a pillion immediately.

    On the the information available here I'd reccommend you stick with the 250. Ask the opinion of whoever is running your advanced riding course when you're there as they'll be a better judge of your skill (and possibly your mindset) than anyone on the internet.

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    [QUOTE=jaffaonajappa;1130090787]
    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post

    Many jaffas cannot muster 4 inches...
    My heart cries inside for all jaffas, i'll measure mine now...wait where did i put that 2nd ruler?
    Rest in peace Tony - you will be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akkadian View Post
    Get a 600 now but keep the 250 as well. I have both and find the 250 is much more fun in town. Lighter, more fun working the minimal power, fun to flick around. Most importantly for me I get 400km per tank from the 250 and 200km from the 650..
    Damn you get 400km from a tank? What sort of bike do you have?? I'm averaging about 180ish to reserve, including open road grrr.

    - Hey has anyone had good gains on mileage after getting the carbs cleaned? (that is if any of you have bikes with carbs haha)

    Interesting point about have two bikes thou.. It would be ideal but the rego's! (assuming you all are actually paying for them...

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    My lil'ol'hornet only gets to 160km before hitting reserve! And as for multiple bikes ... I do have 7 of them (though 3 at the moment are on hold for rego!)

    So all relative eh?
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    Regarding upgrading from a 250:

    I got my full licence last year on an old 1987 Kawa 250R and it was a brilliant experience. I only found on long journeys and big motorway rides did the parallel twin run out of puff. It was great fun right up until I sold it.

    I have the full licence now, but have steered away from bigger bikes until my skills improve ( I want to do a few ride right courses ) so I just went and bought a Honda Jade 250 for commuting and blatting around the place. Its even a bit different comparing even the 250 parallel faired to and inline 4 naked bike.

    Eventually I want a bigger bike, but I have something I can a) insure b) afford bits for and c) not overstep my abilities on.

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    If I may add my two pennorth?
    I would agree with much already posted. My thought is although you (like me) are OLD, lmao.. you have road awareness to a degree from car driving. Although no doubt after these 6 months you are now aware just how much more ALERT motorcyclists need to be. The Hornet is a reasonable bike for performance and will do 2 up duties as long as you remember its only a 250 and not expect 110-120kph cruising speeds. Certainly I would say go through at least 1 winter on it before changing.
    As for the next step? If the style of bike you like is the standard/upright seating position a GS500 is a nice step up, or a W650? I'd even say a New Bonnie/thunderbird or the older 900cc triples would not be an unreasonable choice, big bike, but not high power, high revving. An SV650, or an FZ6R.... Old CB600 or VF750.
    The biggest issue leaping onto 1litre bikes is often
    1) the difference in cornering characteristics... I had an FJ1200 and could descend my local hill faster on my partners GN250 if not performing big lane changes.
    2) weight... there are just things on a 200kilo machine you will not get away with, a lighter machine may 'allow'.
    3) perspective of speed..... Big bikes just so often do not seem to be going fast, then OHHHHH SHIT, you are into a corner way too hot.
    The above 3 are what I would consider 'classic' misunderstandings riders changing from 250's to big bikes will make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1SK View Post
    Hey all,

    1st post..!

    I've had my Hornet 250 since about Feb, been riding it *almost every day.

    It's a great bike, but my goal is to get something bigger to carry pillion for some tours, and also use it for general thrashing about in the weekends..

    - Anyone have any thoughts on 6 months being too soon to get something faster?

    Also, how many other Hornet 250 riders are out there??

    Cheers!
    Really... you are the only one who knows if you are ready for a bigger bike..
    but send you had to make this post to ask if you are ready...
    I would venture to say you are NOT... If you felt you were and had the
    conferdence..you would have bought a bike then showed everyone
    pics of yer new pride and joy..

    pete

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