Race numbers - a bitch...

**crazzed** · 14th August 2011, 14:17

Originally Posted by MSTRS

I agree that returning to number boards is probably not a goer. Frame designs these days are not remotely friendly to extra attachments.
But as for riders telling race officials to 'bugger off'...who's in charge?
As one rider was told "We can run a race meeting without you. Can you run one without us?"

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Fuck off. And I'm a HE.
If you read the regs properly, you will see the 2 digit rule is for Nationals only.
And as for 'staff' disallowing bikes to race...where did that come from?

I didn't start this as anything other than a moan about how hard it is for marshals and other trackside wallahs to read the numbers on some bikes. It has nothing to do with trying to get some 'work' free or otherwise.

look at your first quote we can run a race .........

And dont you think the clubs could of enforced this better before it got to this.
Two dogits just for national rounds. But every entry form states running to mnz rules which includes the national rounds doesnt it. Were is the clear line drawn here. I can agree with sticking to the rules but the clubs really need to enforce it not bleet about it and try to get it changed as they cant enforce it or be bothered enforcing.

**MSTRS:Me** · 14th August 2011, 15:22

A club official would probably still have to refer a matter of number legality to the MNZ rep on the day. My quote was of a race official reacting to a rider's attitude to something that rider had been spoken to about.
Hear what you say about the 'run to MNZ rules' though. And it's a fair point. It's not up to me (I'm 'just' a marshal) but I suspect that having 3 digits won't be a problem at VMCC or PMCC meets. Just as long as those numbers are clear, as yours are.

**MSTRS:Me** · 14th August 2011, 15:25

Originally Posted by crazzed

wasnt directed at you clive sorry just venting frustration on th whole subject but i believe the vic club could of enforced the rules better rather than get them changed.

Actually, this needs to be addressed...
It is my belief that MNZ were looking at the number issue, amongst other things, before this raised it's ugly head at a club meet. And I will absolutely guarantee that a bitch thread on KB had nought to do with it, either.

**crazzed** · 14th August 2011, 15:30

Originally Posted by MSTRS

A club official would probably still have to refer a matter of number legality to the MNZ rep on the day. My quote was of a race official reacting to a rider's attitude to something that rider had been spoken to about.
Hear what you say about the 'run to MNZ rules' though. And it's a fair point. It's not up to me (I'm 'just' a marshal) but I suspect that having 3 digits won't be a problem at VMCC or PMCC meets. Just as long as those numbers are clear, as yours are.

The real gutting part of all this is they can change rules around when they like/need to. No problem there. Why cant they change it to allow 3 digit numbers as long as they comply with the sizing regulations. They need rigid and clear rules and this one for National being differrant from local club racing is wrong. Keep it accross the board so its simple and clear as most clubs want to run to MNZ rules/regs.

**Tony.OK** · 14th August 2011, 15:49

Originally Posted by crazzed

The real gutting part of all this is they can change rules around when they like/need to. No problem there. Why cant they change it to allow 3 digit numbers as long as they comply with the sizing regulations. They need rigid and clear rules and this one for National being differrant from local club racing is wrong. Keep it accross the board so its simple and clear as most clubs want to run to MNZ rules/regs.

Nothing has changed yet................its a proposal, go look again and you'll see that submissions can be made by email to Peter R re any objections etc.
As long as your #'s are clear I'm sure clubs won't worry. And Paeroa and Wanga's etc aren't Nat events so can't see any hassles there either.

**crazzed** · 14th August 2011, 15:55

Originally Posted by Tony.OK

Nothing has changed yet................its a proposal, go look again and you'll see that submissions can be made by email to Peter R re any objections etc.
As long as your #'s are clear I'm sure clubs won't worry. And Paeroa and Wanga's etc aren't Nat events so can't see any hassles there either.

Already been in contact wuth peter and it will go through as it is not interested in anychanges. I cant see the issue with having a common rule for local and national events. How would you feel if your number was given out to jo blogs for the national rounds you did not attend??? Wouldnt it be simpler to allow 3 digits at national levels aswell.

**Biggles08** · 14th August 2011, 16:41

Originally Posted by crazzed

Why cant they change it to allow 3 digit numbers as long as they comply with the sizing regulations. They need rigid and clear rules and this one for National being different from local club racing is wrong. Keep it across the board so its simple and clear as most clubs want to run to MNZ rules/regs.

got to agree with this.

**Skunk** · 15th August 2011, 07:55

Dear Crazzed,

Time to fix a few of your strange facts:

Vic Club DID NOT change the rules, nor ask for the rules to be changed. FACT.

Riders 'took the piss' with their race numbers and Vic Club started asking the riders (at Vic Club events) to sort it out. FACT.

MNZ took it on themselves (as they can and often do) to CLARIFY the number rules. FACT.

Three digits are fine if you're not doing Nationals. FACT.

Not every racer does Nationals - why tie them to two digits? Why do Nationals riders need more than two, there's only a few of you in each class?

The actual rules have changed very little. Nationals have always been two digits AFAIK.

Can we get back to the racing yet?