I agree with Alasdair Thompson

[meteor]

hey I'm sure they're are I have just never encountered them in any of the jobs I've worked for, nor any I know about.

Totally agree, I've never seen a job where two people who are similarly qualified, similar roles, similar hours and have the same longevity of service don't get similar pay. The reporting never says what the sample variables are which skew the results. But if they did, it wouldn't be a good story would it!

Actually what I've noticed is that a lot of positions are filled with people whom the organisation wants so it represents the societal demographic... women, dark skin, whatever, certainly the best person for the job is not always the wone that gets it... what a naive sole to think the world is fair and just.

[ac3_snow]

I'm a firm believer of workplace equality, thats why I let the woman work more so they can earn the same as the men!

..........

[Str8 Jacket]

Totally agree, I've never seen a job where two people who are similarly qualified, similar roles, similar hours and have the same longevity of service don't get similar pay. The reporting never says what the sample variables are which skew the results. But if they did, it wouldn't be a good story would it!

Well now you both have..... I work in Procurement which has always been quite 'male-driven' times have changed now.

. what a naive sole to think the world is fair and just.

EXACTLY - Which is why I am looking for another job....

[ducatilover]

I'm off to women's refuge to get a job.




Interesting topic though. I have yet to see an example of it myself, but, it doesn't surprise me at all.

[Scuba_Steve]

EXACTLY - Which is why I am looking for another job....

well if you want a female controlled industry, and a HEAVY bias to the chick there's always pornographic movies. In that industry the male gets shit all compared to the chick in both pay & control. If I remember right (in USD) the chick starts at $2k/movie and can progress upto $24k/movie for the big stars whereas guys start $400/movie and max out at $1.2k/movie for the big stars with most maxing out at $800/movie and all-the-while the chick pretty much has complete control too.

[Grubber]

I think the reporting on that article is a great example of the shite quality of journalism out there. Trying to see past the dramatic headline the guy does say that the facts prove that this is the case...however does that mean they should get paid less? Isn't that what leave (including sick leave) is for?

And +1 to the posters re gender roles for parenting...narrow view indeed, and although there may be more females that take this role in our household it is simply that I earn more. If there was better pay parity....

It appears that in the same job with same qualifications they actually get paid the same.
As for stay at home with the kids bit, i know of 3 friends that the male stays at home with the kids while mum works. Her pay was so high it was the obvious solution. All seem to really enjoy it too.
I myself did 4 years at home with my kids when i was self employed and i would have to say it was the best time of my life ever.

[jaffaonajappa]

Bwahahahaaa, funny. I think the EMA is about to look for a new Boss....this guy has done a Paul Henry to himself

It doesnt really matter what the guy believes....voicing that opinion is the same as him promoting tat opinion....and as the EMA Boss, thats wayyyy out of line.

[Str8 Jacket]

well if you want a female controlled industry, and a HEAVY bias to the chick there's always pornographic movies. In that industry the male gets shit all compared to the chick in both pay & control. If I remember right (in USD) the chick starts at $2k/movie and can progress upto $24k/movie for the big stars whereas guys start $400/movie and max out at $1.2k/movie for the big stars with most maxing out at $800/movie and all-the-while the chick pretty much has complete control too.

Awesome! Sounds like just what I am looking for!

[jaffaonajappa]

Awesome! Sounds like just what I am looking for!

Auditions close Sunday...

[Indiana_Jones]

I think that in a democracy you are free to express any opinion you want as long as it does not criticise or in anyway diminish women, jewish folks or people of colour...

plus maybe baby seals

As I've said many a time before,

'You have the right to free speech, as long as you're not dumb enough to actually try it!'

-Indy

[short-circuit]

Amusing coverage on 3 news - what an absolute tit

[oldrider]

Freedom of choice, freedom of speech all in tact, he chose, he spoke, right or wrong, he takes the consequence of "his" action!

Did he expect the women's wanker brigade to applaud him? FFS! IMHO his bad judgement call!

[MadDuck]

Amusing coverage on 3 news - what an absolute tit

Good summation!

Women tend to not apply for or get accepted for the higher paying roles. That skews the average. What a silly little man for suggesting its because women bleed once a month and breed....

[onearmedbandit]

He was simply relaying what had been reported to him by employers throughout NZ, no doubt both male and female employers.

I don't believe women should be paid a lower hourly rate or salary for any job they are employed for. However, and I don't give a fuck if I upset anyone by saying this, but I've worked with women who have taken 1-2 days off every month because of their period, just because they 'don't feel like coming in', and I've also worked with women who will jump at the chance to leave work early or not come in because they have to pick up their children or look after them. Most blokes I've worked with are quite happy for someone else to pick them up. Of course there are exceptions, but women (in my experience) seem to have the stronger bond to their offspring then men and so therefore feel that only they can take care of them, not an aunty/uncle/neighbour/grandparent.

So yes I believe what the employers of NZ have said, that women do take more time off as a general rule. Would I have said it if I was him on the radio? Not if I wanted to keep my job lol.

[short-circuit]

Good summation!

Women tend to not apply for or get accepted for the higher paying roles. That skews the average. What a silly little man for suggesting its because women bleed once a month and breed....

He was even funnier on Campbell Live seemingly - perhaps more a knob end this time (?)

The short version is good:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Alasdair-Thom...0/Default.aspx


The long version is possibly worse:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Alasdair-Thom...1/Default.aspx