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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    The mistake is to believe that we have evolved away from our primal drives. The veneer of civilisation is actually very thin. Courtesy, consideration of others, not striking out in anger, not taking what we want, obeying laws: these adjustments enable us to live safely with each other.

    Evolutionary psychology tells us a lot about why we do certain things, react in particular ways, and have illogical perspectives. The human brain evolved over one million years of dealing with primitive conditions. We have only had settlements for the past 13,500 years during which the need to develop civilised rules arose.

    We still experience primal reactions and desires whether we like to admit it or not.
    Yah de yahhh......sure sure.
    But for a while now, we have been improving. Primal instinct and desires can be sensed, and you can enjoy the sense of them. Its acting on them, or refusing to (or failing to) use your higher level self-controls that is not acceptable.

    What was ok even just 100 years ago, is not acceptable now - people need to get up to speed with the changes, or Quit.

    Its not acceptable to unleash a hiding on kids even if baited and they perhaps deserve it. Cops cant go giving teens a kick up the arse. blokes cannot go and 'fix' the local kids that was caught stealing. If someone steals from your vege patch out the back, you cannot hunt them down and skin them alive. And seeing some foxy wee birdie flaunt her assets in front of you....you cannot flip them upside down in the garden. Unless they let you. lol

    Errr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazfender View Post
    I seem to say this a lot around here - so?
    So? That's your response to evolution?!?! Presumably you're just too thick to comprehend such a complicated concept, so here's a simplified version, just for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    So? That's your response to evolution?!?! Presumably you're just too thick to comprehend such a complicated concept, so here's a simplified version, just for you.
    thanks bro, that's just what I needed. you can sit down now.

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    I RAPE myself every time I look in a mirror
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    I RAPE myself every time I look in a mirror
    me too.
    for added excitement, I sometimes pretend Im someone else.
    And wen Im really bored...I put my gloves on. Oh wait, shhhhhhhhit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post

    We still experience primal reactions and desires whether we like to admit it or not.

    And unless we cull those with the above we will continue to be like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
    Be careful - this delicious outrage has gone international because some cop in Canada suggested dressing sensibly...
    Actually he didn't suggest dressing 'sensibly' he suggested that women get raped because they choose to dress like 'sluts' - I don't personally know any rape victims that were dressed like sluts at the time they were savagely taken advantage of and why is it a womans responsibility to censure herself to avoid a penis on overdrive anyway?!

    FFS what century are we in again?

    Sorry i didn't read forward - kid wants a turn. ciao

    BTW - primal urges rah rah - that's a cop out as far as I'm concerned when it comes to 'raping someone' that is bullshit.

    I have urges all the time...heaps - quite a few are terribly antisocial too and guess what - no one would ever know because I actually stop myself from doing shit that's wrong. Anyone incapable of that should just be shot...in fact seems to me that would be a great business venture I'm a starter for that! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    And unless we cull those with the above we will continue to be like that...
    Bwhahahaha .. what about those guys and girls in the blue regalia who have the primal urge to ..... (oh wait .. that's you isn't it ...)
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Actually he didn't suggest dressing 'sensibly' he suggested that women get raped because they choose to dress like 'sluts' - I don't personally know any rape victims that were dressed like sluts at the time they were savagely taken advantage of and why is it a womans responsibility to censure herself to avoid a penis on overdrive anyway?!

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    No - On January 24, 2011 Constable Michael Sanguinetti was a speaker at a York University safety forum, where he was addressing the issue of crime prevention. It was in this context that he commented: "women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwalk

    If he had not used the work slut he might have got away with it. Personally - dressing in a certain way is more likely to get you the biff from other women BUT what he was trying to say was 'dont draw attention to yourself' as a self defense trick - not just rape but assault, robbery etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    There's a "women's space" at university, even though university institutions have had higher numbers of women for quite a while now. Their justification is they need a place they can feel safe and free from men.
    Oi stay out of the womens toilets would ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post

    I have urges all the time...heaps - quite a few are terribly antisocial too and guess what - no one would ever know because I actually stop myself from doing shit that's wrong. Anyone incapable of that should just be shot...in fact seems to me that would be a great business venture I'm a starter for that! lol
    You have a gun I can rent? Will bring own ammo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mully
    The mind boggles.

    Unless you were pillioning the sheep - which is more innocent I suppose (but no less baffling)

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    Ok, as distasteful as the approach was, the message does have some valour to it, let's be honest ladies...

    I am not in any way, shape or form condoning any raping activity of any kind (unless its play between conscenting adults, but let's not blurr the lines here), but let's break it down between the two seperate issues at stake:

    1- Rapists will attack anyone they see as a suitable target. I am not at all convinced that the way you dress has a decisive impact on their choice, unless it is part of their triggering criterion. We are talking here about individuals with mental issues, for whom "triggers" are as random as there are varieties of potatoes. It could be linked to their childhood, work environment, or gawd knows what. Singularly mentioning accoutrement is just way too simplistic and deviates widely from the real advice that should be given: IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME... So be aware and watch your back.

    2- The fact that some women seem to thrive on the attention they get via "slutty attire", portraying themselves as total braindead bimbos does not help the gender's safety in any way...but not automatically from rapists...Your average John, given enough dutch courage and arse/boobs combo on display, will get the wrong idea (probably justifyingly so) and have a go at what he sees as easier pickings.
    Cos let's face it, if it is advertised that bluntly, it is not to portray the intentions of entering a convent now, is it?

    So... as much as I enjoy dressing to my best advantage and look sexy, following a few simple rules have always allowed me to steer away from the "slut" tag. But I am fully conscious that I am still at risk of some wacko thinking he can trap me behind a bush and try to have his way with me.

    The fucker better be prepared to knock me out first though, cos I'll poke his eyes out and bite his nads off if he gives me half a chance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Personally - dressing in a certain way is more likely to get you the biff from other women
    I agree - seen that too.

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Oi stay out of the womens toilets would ya
    Well they smell better than the boys ones do!

    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    Ok, as distasteful as the approach was, the message does have some valour to it, let's be honest ladies...
    I agree with much of what you've said there however I wonder...can we quantify what a slut is and what she looks like...not trying to be funny here I just wonder what constitutes slut dressing...is it just short tight dresses? Can tight as pants cause this rape thing t happen too? Just wondering...cos none of the rape victims I know personally were even dressed up to go out on the town, not a single stich of makeup either apparently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post

    I wonder...can we quantify what a slut is and what she looks like...not trying to be funny here I just wonder what constitutes slut dressing...is it just short tight dresses? Can tight as pants cause this rape thing t happen too? Just wondering...cos none of the rape victims I know personally were even dressed up to go out on the town, not a single stich of makeup either apparently...
    what a slut is and how she dresses is a generational thing and therefore constantly subject to change. I suppose I have always taken it to be dressed along the lines of a TV street prostitute.
    I don't think most rapist would touch a slut as most rape is meant to be about power and a slut is dressed to say "here it is come and get it". Not much of a power kick from taking something that is being almost given away.
    Also from reading what little factual statements I can about this issue it was more about the lower end sexual offending. In appropriate touching, comments etc, in which case the cops comments make some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
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    I agree with much of what you've said there however I wonder...can we quantify what a slut is and what she looks like...not trying to be funny here I just wonder what constitutes slut dressing...is it just short tight dresses? Can tight as pants cause this rape thing t happen too? Just wondering...cos none of the rape victims I know personally were even dressed up to go out on the town, not a single stich of makeup either apparently...
    As I said mate, I believe that pushing the "dressing like a slut" argument is but a scapegoat that the lower denominator of the male species would use to justify satisfying their most neanderthal urges. After helping out at a Women's Refuge for some time a few years ago, I do (like you) know that there are very rarely a slutty image to rape victims.

    BUT... There is such a thing as a slutty dresscode, let's not pretend there isn't. Any female with a bit of brains would know what the line is that is not to be crossed (ie: show either cleavage or legs, not both... if you can't bend over without showing off your own map of Tasmania, bets are your skirt is too short...etc)

    I cringe enormously when I see young women in their late teens in Auckland. Very few can be honestly called classy. I partly blame their parents, and the media. Yes, teens will be teens and need to experiment, but surely we could do better at teaching them to be dignified about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    what a slut is and how she dresses is a generational thing and therefore constantly subject to change.
    Well put.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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