Rossi is a coming

[RobGassit]

Rossi's ambition is being overtaken by his lack of talent.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Not really mate. He was 16 seconds back from the winner at Qatar, 14 seconds at Le Mans, 7 at Catalunya,and now 30 seconds back at Assen. NOT what I'd call good progress.

Progress?????
Stoner won how many races last year on it, Now they have made progress and he got 4th (only because LemonChello nocked of hoebag) and was fucken half a week behind spies on his old bike. Should have taken a pey cut and stayed at Yamaha and saved face

I was referring to his comments on 'feel'. He thinks the rear problem has improved and is looking again at the front.
The whole bloody field was spread out more than I've seen in a long time (must have been dire as a spectator), riders were being lapped ffs! Oh and he did finish in 4th place!

The conditions meant if you lacked 'feel' from the front end you were never going to go fast, who could commit into a corner without confidence in the front end in those conditions?

Having seen him develop bikes into championship winners in the past I can see him doing it again.

[gixerracer]

I was referring to his comments on 'feel'. He thinks the rear problem has improved and is looking again at the front.
The whole bloody field was spread out more than I've seen in a long time (must have been dire as a spectator), riders were being lapped ffs! Oh and he did finish in 4th place!

The conditions meant if you lacked 'feel' from the front end you were never going to go fast, who could commit into a corner without confidence in the front end in those conditions?

Having seen him develop bikes into championship winners in the past I can see him doing it again.

I cant.
When he went to yamaha it was dog slow but turned corners not so bad and he was a far superior rider at that point.
He won his first race on the yamaha. He went to Ducati no any better rider than at least two others who are on better bikes, the Ducati is fast but dont go left and right so good.
Has the Doctor bitten off more than he can chew??????????

[Mental Trousers]

I cant.
When he went to yamaha it was dog slow but turned corners not so bad and he was a far superior rider at that point.
He won his first race on the yamaha. He went to Ducati no any better rider than at least two others who are on better bikes, the Ducati is fast but dont go left and right so good.
Has the Doctor bitten off more than he can chew??????????

What'd you do with the real Craig?? Stop making sense ffs.

Developing the bike is more about the Engineer. The rider says the front end feels vague and it's up to his Engineer to figure out what that means and how to fix it.

[roadracingoldfart]

Rossi will never win on the Ducati , he demands a perfectmachine and when hes got one he is unbeatable, when hes got to try and make the bike work and compensate with raw edged ability hes a fuckin girl.
How well did Ducati do last year ?? better than i is this year anyhow.

[RobGassit]

Rossi might have Troy Corser disease. If it ain't perfecto he just fanny's about and blames the engineers. Troy Bayliss on the other hand,, ( Phaarkin Legend ) would wring the neck out of whatever he ended up sitting on, much like Kevin Scwhantz. That's why those guy's are legends, because they RIDE the bike. No offence to Rossi or Corser fans. I'm just sayin I admire the guy's with mongrel in them..

[Brian d marge]

What'd you do with the real Craig?? Stop making sense ffs.

Developing the bike is more about the Engineer. The rider says the front end feels vague and it's up to his Engineer to figure out what that means and how to fix it.

Thats why its a team

and good engineers know what vague in corners means

As said before, I think the Ducati is fundamentally flawed with regard to the basic geometry ( which they cant change )and how that geometry works with the tyres

This new rear geometry probably has some good points and is a way of "bettering the package " , stiffens it up lowers the mass moment a little ( Honda call it mass centralization)

but its pivoting off the crankcase , which means heavier crankcases , its a v twin ( a ducati )
long wheelbase , and if you try to shorten the wheelbase , you move big heavy bits to places where you might not want em

He is complaining of lack of turn in hence low mid corner speed ( next year , will this disappear? ) which would suggest the above..

Falling off hurts and doest help anyone, I agree with JB , understand why then get it working and I have to say for a small team like Ducati , they aint half doing a good Job with what they have

Stephen

[jaffaonajappa]

Rossi might have Troy Corser disease. If it ain't perfecto he just fanny's about and blames the engineers. Troy Bayliss on the other hand,, ( Phaarkin Legend ) would wring the neck out of whatever he ended up sitting on, much like Kevin Scwhantz. That's why those guy's are legends, because they RIDE the bike. No offence to Rossi or Corser fans. I'm just sayin I admire the guy's with mongrel in them..

Yeah, im hearing you there.
Add Randy Mamola to that list....farken legend that invented the stoppie (well made it visible to joe bloggs public!)

[eelracing]

How well did Ducati do last year ?? better than i is this year anyhow.

Not quite chap,took Casey 13 rounds before he even won a GP last year,and he sure had his fair share of issues with it.Only prob as I see it is he had 4 years to develop it and only succeeded in making it worse.

[Shaun]

Not quite chap,took Casey 13 rounds before he even won a GP last year,and he sure had his fair share of issues with it.Only prob as I see it is he had 4 years to develop it and only succeeded in making it worse.

Exactually, and Honda and Yamaha have developed there bikes a LOT ( Honda mainly) over last years set up

[Crasherfromwayback]

.Only prob as I see it is he had 4 years to develop it and only succeeded in making it worse.

Bit hard to 'develop' a bike when the stubborn fucks won't do anything you ask for as you're winning on it.

Much easier to get them the pull finger when they've near bankrupted themselves buying the 'worlds greatest development rider' and they can't win races or make it better.

[Shaun]

Bit hard to 'develop' a bike when the stubborn fucks won't do anything you ask for as you're winning on it.

Much easier to get them the pull finger when they've near bankrupted themselves buying the 'worlds greatest development rider' and they can't win races or make it better.

Guess you must be privligged to the Buisnes dealings of Ducati to know that for a fact mate haha yea write Ussumption is a dangerous thing eh

[Crasherfromwayback]

Guess you must be privligged to the Buisnes dealings of Ducati to know that for a fact mate haha yea write Ussumption is a dangerous thing eh

It's called a windup.

[Shaun]

It's called a windup.

Mine too Pete

[imdying]

It's not even a race really. Ducati are ok on there day, but they're second rate in every way compared to Honda.

Actually, not true. They have the whole 'Team of guys that look like monkeys down pat'.