LED indicator help?

[DrunkenMistake]

It's attached to a bike at the moment, but would've figured out a way to get it off (grossly modified bike) if you were local.

Give Appco a ring (if no local branch, then Repco, although they're basically all button pushers now even they can't fuck it up given you have a part number)... I think that's where mine came from. Failing that, BNT. Either of those places should be pretty cheap (~$30).

I have come across eBay units that won't function correctly, but I haven't ever put any time into figuring out why exactly, I just fit the LED04s.

I see, oh thats good a bnt just opened here lol, the LED02 looks more like what Ill probably need

[DrunkenMistake]

I see, oh thats good a bnt just opened here lol, the LED02 looks more like what Ill probably need

actually, whats the difference between load sensitive and not load sensitive?

[imdying]

actually, whats the difference between load sensitive and not load sensitive?

I always use non sensitive, they seem to work with any LED indicator combination I throw at them. If the price is something retarded, sing out.

[Woodman]

Repco have a narva led resistor wiring kit in the showroom with the led lights.

[DrunkenMistake]

Happy ending,

Went to BNT and they were useless, dont think I will go there again, I found their customer service crap, guy told me they dont sell Tridon and noone in NZ will and their brand was out of stock, so I went over to repco and asked the nice young lass there about 3pin LED Flashers, she wasnt sure if they had them as she had never herd of them, so she checked her big and there they were, I had a glimpse through and found the one I needed, and alas they didnt have it in stock, but they had an identical one made by.. Narva? I think it was, she had a look and found it, the only one they had and it was something mad like $55.50, she was kind enough to knock it down to $40 for me so I was pleased,
Had to buy some electrics stuff like spade clips etc, and weirdly enough they didnt sell them, went to dicksmith and they didnt have them either, shot over to Jaycar and they had plenty, so got all my goodies home,
wired in the new flasher and gave it a twirl..
WORKED! "YOU FUCKING GOOD BITCH" I think were my exact words, kicked over the motor and left it to warm up a bit so I could go through the range and see if they worked, got it up to about 10 grand and they hadnt quickened up or anything so I was happy with that, I slipped the dash board idiot light bulb back in and all four flashed, so for now im without an idiot light, but everything is wired in its nicely done, looks professional and it works!, I recorded a vid I might put it on youtube and you can see haha.

Cheers for everyones help.

[EB255GTX]

Your dash light problem is because of the way the dash light works in your bike:

The dash bulb has one wire going to the positive of each side turn light.

When turn lights are on the dash bulb earths through the non flashing side (through the bulb filament)

With normal bulbs installed in the indicators (not LED) the dash bulb does not draw enough current to light up the big indicator bulbs on the non flashing side.

With LED turn signals the small current from the dash bulb is enough to light up the non flashing side.

2 easy fixes -

1. Do nothing, leave the dash bulb out.

2. Add diodes (a few cents each) .
-Cut both wires from the dash bulb.
-Put a diode on the end of the wires coming from the turn lights (the non striped end of the diode)
Connect both diodes striped ends together and then to one of the dash bulb wires.
Earth the other dash bulb wire.


:-)

[NinjaNanna]

Looking at the wiring diagram I'm not surprised the idiot light causes all 4 to flash (mind you I can't quiet see how it works with standard bulbs though).

Regardless, 2 LEDs back to back with the center grounded should sort out your idiot light. Either that or you could use a bi coloured led and the flashing colour would tell you which indicator was on.

[DrunkenMistake]

Your dash light problem is because of the way the dash light works in your bike:

The dash bulb has one wire going to the positive of each side turn light.

When turn lights are on the dash bulb earths through the non flashing side (through the bulb filament)

With normal bulbs installed in the indicators (not LED) the dash bulb does not draw enough current to light up the big indicator bulbs on the non flashing side.

With LED turn signals the small current from the dash bulb is enough to light up the non flashing side.

2 easy fixes -

1. Do nothing, leave the dash bulb out.

2. Add diodes (a few cents each) .
-Cut both wires from the dash bulb.
-Put a diode on the end of the wires coming from the turn lights (the non striped end of the diode)
Connect both diodes striped ends together and then to one of the dash bulb wires.
Earth the other dash bulb wire.


:-)

Cheers for that, I was told to try using an LED bulb or add diodes, I was given a link of a VFR forum that explains how and what to do, (for the dash light) but right now im not bothered to much, I just got a WOF so I should be sweet for 6 months haha, I was told by a bike shop the idiot light was needed for a WOF, is this true?

[DrunkenMistake]

Looking at the wiring diagram I'm not surprised the idiot light causes all 4 to flash (mind you I can't quiet see how it works with standard bulbs though).

Regardless, 2 LEDs back to back with the center grounded should sort out your idiot light. Either that or you could use a bi coloured led and the flashing colour would tell you which indicator was on.

Thought about that also, but im not too concerned at the moment

[EB255GTX]

Originally Posted by NinjaNanna http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/im...post-right.png
Looking at the wiring diagram I'm not surprised the idiot light causes all 4 to flash (mind you I can't quiet see how it works with standard bulbs though).

Regardless, 2 LEDs back to back with the center grounded should sort out your idiot light. Either that or you could use a bi coloured led and the flashing colour would tell you which indicator was on.

This won't work - you need the 2 diodes i mentioned above. LEDs or regular bulb for the dash light makes no difference - you still need the diodes to prevent current flowing the wrong way!

The bicolour thing is a good idea though, you'd get indication of which side is on which you don't get stock on your bike....mind you, you probably should either know which side is on because you are about to turn, or not care because it is only flashing accidentally ;-)

[NinjaNanna]

you do know what the "D" in LED stands for don't you

[NinjaNanna]

Cheers for that, I was told to try using an LED bulb or add diodes, I was given a link of a VFR forum that explains how and what to do, (for the dash light) but right now im not bothered to much, I just got a WOF so I should be sweet for 6 months haha, I was told by a bike shop the idiot light was needed for a WOF, is this true?

I doubt they'd pick it up in a WOF, but whilst it may be refered to as an idiot light, its also there for good reason, you can't blame somebody for pulling out in front of you if your indicator is going. Unless you compulsively press the cancel button on a regular basis I think the reminder light is a good thing to have, even more so on a bike.

[EB255GTX]

you do know what the "D" in LED stands for don't you

i think i've managed to quote this one properly unlike my last....oops.

The "D" in "LED" stands for "diode that has only a couple volts reverse blocking capability before it breaks over"

It varies with the colour, but most LEDs will only withstand 2 to 5 volts in the reverse direction. You need diodes in series with them that have a reverse block capability of higher than your bike's electrical system output.

[NinjaNanna]

Did you even look at the attachment? Where is this reverse bias going to come from?

[bogan]

Also it depends on what you want to block, I just did a 60odd LED array for brake and indicators, the quoted reverse voltage on them is 5V, but the breakdown voltage is 40, which is plenty, just before breakdown they only let 5uA through anyway, not enough to run any circuitry/lights or cause damage.