Wellington motorway 7.30am ZX-9R vs blue Falcon

[pzkpfw]

I don't mind splitting between moving cars, because I assume they've seen each other and don't want to bang into themselves...)

THAT kind of 'thinking' can get you killed...

Meh.

I don't see it as any different than assuming the cars coming the other way on a two-way road will stay in their lane and not veer across into yours suddenly. Yes, we always have to stay alert for the unexpected... but some things are just less likely than others.

I split on the Motorway. Sure, one day I might just get squished between two cars because one decides to change lanes into the car next door. (Or maybe the gap just closes a bit too much). It's a risk I judge to be within reason. So do plenty of other motorcyclists - including the ones complaining about how other motorcyclists do their splitting.

[GrayWolf]

Yes it is.

(Unless you mean "not" to the "technical" bit. In which case, if you meant, "lane splitting is legal", then you'd be right.)

legal? untill you have an accident, you are then 'seen' as not being in a recognised, correctly marked lane. Your lane splitting WILL be used as a 'technicality of culpability' towards any accident you have in a lane splitting situation.

I think you are assuming a little too much there graywolf.I try to stay aware of everything around me,spatial awareness,and when I see bikes catching me uo I wait for the next gap between cars and let them pass.I get a wave of thanks everytime whereas the wave you get with your attitude would be of the one finger variety.

Just as you have made a similar assumption on my first posting, and if I take a few seconds longer than you to find what I consider a reasonable gap, and you wish to give me the 'salute'.... later or another day when/if you are sitting by the roadside with dented bike and pride? then Please accept a one hand clap in return

Oh right, the ol' "Anyone who agrees with me is a 'thinker' and anyone who calls me out on being a dickhead is stupid".
Ghan'get'fucked.

LIkewise mate, actualy I have no issue if you disagree with me, but your post was not even a well though out one,,, you didnt think the situation through. You spouted off without working out what I ws actualy saying.....

[GrayWolf]

Meh.
I split on the Motorway. Sure, one day I might just get squished between two cars because one decides to change lanes into the car next door. (Or maybe the gap just closes a bit too much). It's a risk I judge to be within reason. So do plenty of other motorcyclists - including the ones complaining about how other motorcyclists do their splitting.

Maybe those DOING the 'complaining', have in the past either seen someone wiped out/hurt. They may have been hurt, or. had one or two near misses. They may be trying to impart a little knowledge?? Yes I have seen a friend wipe himself out right in front of me, in the UK when a teenager, no, he wasn't lane splitting. One thing I have pointed out before is this, UK Police do not 'condone' lane splitting, but do not reccomend splitting above 50kph (your speed) any higher? if a car decides to change lanes/swerve in front of you? His speed of lane change will be so fast, you WILL NOT have time to react ...... nor will your brakes have any great effect on speed reduction at those close distances

[GrayWolf]

Yes and no. Your ZZR may not have the best mirrors (as sports bikes are known for) All the bikes I've owned have had at most a rear blind spot of one to two bike lengths. My current bike has the best mirrors I've ever had, if I move my arm slightly I can see underneath my top box.

Yes I would agree with that remark, sadly neither were the mirrors on my FJ1200 any better. Using this 'arguement' most 'sport' oriented bikes or bikes like the ZZR (sport/tourer) on the road have somewhat ineffective mirrors for view directly behind. So I feel my statement holds true, that few riders can 'see' directly behind them.

[Furyos J]

I remember a thread on here a month back or so about a blue falcon harrasing wellington bikers. I think the guy is still around, this arvo heading from lower hutt towards town i was sitting behind a car in the fast lane doin 105 or so, i pulled into inside lane and passed, nice and easy, plenty of indicators and room avalible, check my mirrors 5-10 secs after and this blue falcon is ON my back wheel, so i pull into inside lane to let him pass, and he swerves in behind me, racing up and then jaming brakes on, i exited at the porrirua interchange and he followed still very close, i lost him at the lights and went home. Just wondering if the falcon thats been harrasing others is a light blue, around 2000ish? I didnt notice anything more about the car, as i didnt think much of it at the time, but remembered reading the a thread about that later at home

cheers
J

[mashman]

Riding into Welly is pretty feckin interesting, specially with them cats eyes, and foreheads , seperating the lanes. My mirrors are shit , I still use 'em, but i'll life-saver before I move. There's no point in going anywhere unless you're pretty sure that the way is clear. So I'll always look over my shoulder before I go (no blind spot). It has stopped me from ploughing into a quicker splitter before .

Get the reg to the cops. I don't fancy meeting the guy if he's ruinning late (although I ride in somewhat later )

[mashman]

If they really wanted to "avoid" some of these issues. They would allow the service lanes to be used by motorcyclists (50kmh tops) during peak hours.

[imdying]

Who knows where this Falcon parks during the day?

[nodrog:Me]

Sorry, I thought you guys would be keen for a race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Better still...give me a rego number and I'll tell you all where he parks it at night!