The boycott that lied...

[jaffaonajappa]

And you think this book is going to change any of that?

No. Im just generally peeved at what I perceive to be a mob mentality running rampant.

So. Im heading off for a nice evening bike ride. Laters!

[Katman]

No. Im just generally peeved at what I perceive to be a mob mentality running rampant.

I'm generally not a fan of lynch mobs either but every so often the mob gets it right.

[Pussy]

If Wishart and King are so passionate about "getting the truth out", they should put it on a blog.
But that wouldn't give either of them an arse-pocket full of cash though....

I have been buying Investigate magazine for years. That is now past tense.

[Motig]

I've got to add my 2c worth here. The fact that this book has surfaced at the same time as the Coroners hearing is to me reprehensible and shows no feelings for the two murdered children. It does show an attempt to cash in on the media frenzy tho because this is the sort of book that has a very limited shelf life so appears to have been released to make the most of the free advertising. The cries of freedom of the press, and her story must be told cut no ice its just an attempt to hide the morals of those responsible for the book. Shame on them.

[Woodman]

The irony in this is that the supporters of the book are claiming the FB page against the book the death of free speech?

Actually - with the advent of social media, its now not just people with publishing companies and $$ that can be heard, us, the great unwashed finally have a vehicle with which we CAN speak. And that voice is very definately saying fuck off back into your hole we dont want to bloody know about you, your friggin family or any thing else you child neglecting scum.... Call us a lynch mob if you want but in this case I think you would find its a very very big one....

Seems pretty free to me.... Its just some people dont really like the public having a say do they?

Yes both sides are exercising free speech equally, but wishart seems to think that his free speech is more equal than others.

[Indiana_Jones]

If I were to boycott a book I won't buy it. But to demand that no one else does or no one stock it is a bit too much for myself.

I'd imagine some people would rather no shops and libraries stock 'Mein kampf' or that I be allowed to read it.....

No one is making you buy it.

Wouldn't be the first book about a death, Pierrepoint made a profit of his 500ish hangings....

-Indy

[FJRider]

I've got to add my 2c worth here. The fact that this book has surfaced at the same time as the Coroners hearing is to me reprehensible and shows no feelings for the two murdered children. It does show an attempt to cash in on the media frenzy tho because this is the sort of book that has a very limited shelf life so appears to have been released to make the most of the free advertising. The cries of freedom of the press, and her story must be told cut no ice its just an attempt to hide the morals of those responsible for the book. Shame on them.

Depends WHO is getting the cash ...

I would think publishing expenses are taken out of revenue gained through sales of the book, with remainder to charity ... ???

One of the few times I hope "charitys" miss out ...

[Swoop]

but wishart seems to think that his free speech...

His speech isn't free. It comes with a pricetag of whatever his book retails for in $$$'s.
If he is that "passionate" he could (as stated previously in this thread) post it on the web.
It appears that he is only interested in keeping his name in the public arena though, via free publicity.

[The Singing Chef]

Alrighty...

Where to start? So i will start with the profits subject.

The book has been wholly funded by Ian Wishart, the cost to publish said book is over $40,000 at a rough estimate. Any profit from this book goes straight into recuperating this huge loss in finances, most books will break about even, it is the bookstores that get the majority of the profit. So in a nutshell, Ian will not be making any profit, he will be balancing costs and then putting the rest off(if any) into charity.

Second point:

This whole little bitchy "lynch mop, Pmsing bunch of fucktards have built their whole base of hatred on bullshit started by a dickhead who bent the truth.
So very mis-guided, and pretty fucking pointless to tell you the truth, you may all think that you are standing up for the good of the twins and child abuse and the fucking virgin mary if you really want, but at the end of the day you are protesting on false information, as said in the most current interview " The book was not supposed to be released at this point in time, it was a sneaky little bookstore who sent off the flyer that is sent to every bookstore before books come out, to tvnz who then ran a story on it at this most inopportune time, so it was not his idea to release at this point in time, i mean the book isn't even finished yet.

As a child i was brought up on the basis of, dont judge a book by it's cover, and it is a saying that has worked well for me in the past. But it seems that quite a few Nzers have never heard of this expression and decide to be prematurely idiotic. All questions that have been asked on Hatebook and here are described in the book in detail.

Read the book (or not) before you judge it, if then after you have read it and don't like it then fine, or if you don't want to spend the money, then wait for a review of the book to see what it's all about.

[Laava]

Alrighty...

Where to start? So i will start with the profits subject.

The book has been wholly funded by Ian Wishart, the cost to publish said book is over $40,000 at a rough estimate. Any profit from this book goes straight into recuperating this huge loss in finances, most books will break about even, it is the bookstores that get the majority of the profit. So in a nutshell, Ian will not be making any profit, he will be balancing costs and then putting the rest off(if any) into charity.

Second point:

This whole little bitchy "lynch mop, Pmsing bunch of fucktards have built their whole base of hatred on bullshit started by a dickhead who bent the truth.
So very mis-guided, and pretty fucking pointless to tell you the truth, you may all think that you are standing up for the good of the twins and child abuse and the fucking virgin mary if you really want, but at the end of the day you are protesting on false information, as said in the most current interview " The book was not supposed to be released at this point in time, it was a sneaky little bookstore who sent off the flyer that is sent to every bookstore before books come out, to tvnz who then ran a story on it at this most inopportune time, so it was not his idea to release at this point in time, i mean the book isn't even finished yet.

As a child i was brought up on the basis of, dont judge a book by it's cover, and it is a saying that has worked well for me in the past. But it seems that quite a few Nzers have never heard of this expression and decide to be prematurely idiotic. All questions that have been asked on Hatebook and here are described in the book in detail.

Read the book (or not) before you judge it, if then after you have read it and don't like it then fine, or if you don't want to spend the money, then wait for a review of the book to see what it's all about.

What did you expect to hear? You start a thread about a very controversial subject and then whinge about all the negative feedback? Grow up FFS!

[The Singing Chef]

What did you expect to hear? You start a thread about a very controversial subject and then whinge about all the negative feedback? Grow up FFS!

Whinging? fuck you are whinging at me! and i realized that there would be alot of controversy about this thread, i am simply clearing up facts that people seem to "miss" as they bleat on about shit.

Simple really.

Oh and did'nt anybody tell you..I'm a big boy now!!

[jazfender]

You haven't cleared up shit, really.

[Katman]

i am simply clearing up facts that people seem to "miss" as they bleat on about shit.

Nah, you're just parroting your old man's bullshit.

[James Deuce]

We're not judging the book by its cover but by its subject mater - a cowardly woman from a cowardly family who have been allowed to pervert the course of justice without punishment, for reasons that are utterly, transparently, pathetic.

No one wants to hear Macsyna King's story. It wouldn't matter who wrote it, it would get the same reception.

This isn't a free speech issue. What is being expressed is an aversion to repulsive subject matter that will ultimately do nothing to serve Justice or "The Public Interest".

There is no hope of this book "saving" other infants from being beaten to death.

This is simply profiteering from the death of two babies. It's sad to see Mr Wishart sink this low.

[Oblivion]

We're not judging the book by its cover but by its subject mater - a cowardly woman from a cowardly family who have been allowed to pervert the course of justice without punishment, for reasons that are utterly, transparently, pathetic.

No one wants to hear Macsyna King's story. It wouldn't matter who wrote it, it would get the same reception.

This isn't a free speech issue. What is being expressed is an aversion to repulsive subject matter that will ultimately do nothing to serve Justice or "The Public Interest".

There is no hope of this book "saving" other infants from being beaten to death.

This is simply profiteering from the death of two babies. It's sad to see Mr Wishart sink this low.

Exactly. Green Rep for you good sir.