Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 234
Results 46 to 51 of 51

Thread: How do you practise emergency braking?

  1. #46
    Join Date
    15th September 2008 - 16:53
    Bike
    1999 BMW R1100GS / 2012 WR 250 R
    Location
    Inglewood
    Posts
    838
    Brake fade is caused by excess heat, heat is energy, plain and simple. When the brakes are applied, energy (heat) is produced by the forces and powers Sir isaac Newton spent a bit of time working out.
    ABS only operates when excesive force is applied by the (for lack of a better word) braker.
    ABS is a system of regulating braking force to prevent wheels locking up and therefore maximising stopping effort.
    Hmmmm , maximum effort would probably generate maximum heat
    So perhaps the ABS equiped bikes brakes faded because its brakes were working better than the non ABS equipped Model
    If in a situation such as a race track the aforementioned braker is constantly applying maximum force to the brakes (abs model as opposed to Non Abs model) chances are there will be brake fade on one particular model
    The question I now ponder is, what was the real problem?

  2. #47
    Join Date
    29th May 2010 - 21:08
    Bike
    ducati 900ss f650
    Location
    welle
    Posts
    472
    I don't under stand why you would not want abs, it reduces backing distance of most rides especially in wet/slippery conditions
    I would guarantee that an average rider on a abs equipped bike would out brake the best rider on here on the non abs equivalent bike.

  3. #48
    Join Date
    2nd January 2009 - 19:08
    Bike
    Bikeless.NNnnnooooooooo!
    Location
    PhuBia PDR Laos
    Posts
    1,638
    Blog Entries
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I don't under stand why you would not want abs, it reduces backing distance of most rides especially in wet/slippery conditions
    I would guarantee that an average rider on a abs equipped bike would out brake the best rider on here on the non abs equivalent bike.
    I would say you are 95% right anyway.....a rider with ABS would out brake at least95% of the non abs equiped riders ...The problem in my opinion is when a rider familiar with abs, switches back to a non ABS bike

  4. #49
    Join Date
    24th July 2006 - 11:53
    Bike
    KTM 1290 SAR
    Location
    Wgtn
    Posts
    5,541
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I don't under stand why you would not want abs, it reduces backing distance of most rides especially in wet/slippery conditions
    I would guarantee that an average rider on a abs equipped bike would out brake the best rider on here on the non abs equivalent bike.
    Incorrect. Top riders routinely brake shorter on non-ABS models. Mortals sometimes do too, it's just that they also sometimes crash instead.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

  5. #50
    Join Date
    10th December 2008 - 07:39
    Bike
    07 fz6n. 07cbarrrr600
    Location
    STRAYA
    Posts
    2,041
    Blog Entries
    20
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    I don't under stand why you would not want abs, it reduces backing distance of most rides especially in wet/slippery conditions
    I would guarantee that an average rider on a abs equipped bike would out brake the best rider on here on the non abs equivalent bike.
    I would bet you $100 that you are wrong. A good rider will stop quicker with conventional brakes than a hamfist with abs.
    Quote Originally Posted by sil3nt View Post
    Fkn crack up. Most awkward interviewee ever i reckon haha.

  6. #51
    Join Date
    30th December 2002 - 11:00
    Bike
    2011 Suziki V strom 650
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    1,496
    Blog Entries
    1
    I was always taught to brake with the clutch engaged till the last second...in fact in the UK I was told (bike and car) that stalling as I came to a standstill would not cause me to fail an emergency stop.

    Yet the article in the OP says that braking distance is lower if the clutch is disengaged.

    Strange; I know that when racing I raise the idle so that I always have some drive, even if I jam the throttle shut into the corner instead of being back on the throttle. Even at idle the engine tries to move the bike forwards, so it it logical that if I want to stop in the shortest distance I need to remove any forces pushing the bike forward and increase to the max all the forces that retard the bike.

    So why is it that I am so resistant to the idea of pulling the clutch in under heavy braking? Was the programming of my first driving/riding instructors, reinforced by success at passing my test strong enough to discount better/other braking techniques?

    If declutching is the way to go, why haven't Honda added it to their Linked + ABS braking systems?
    Legalise anarchy

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •