SH1 rider
no you ain't, that was just an over the top example of the sort of attitude that would resultOriginally Posted by onearmedbandit
what isn't? the fact that we have a half reasonable police force balanced by the courts or the fact that the world isn't the way you personally want it.
God's Evil Twin
thats probably a better way to say it
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Bro, you need to chill out just a tad.
The theory OAB suggests is actually quite interesting. Personally, it is the demerit points that put me off much more than the cash. Taking my car or bike away or clamping it for 2 hours on the side of the road would certainly piss me off and thus is more likely to cause a behavioural change. I really don't like the idea at all, but I can see that it would work.
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[QUOTE=oneofsix;1130102306]no you ain't, that was just an over the top example of the sort of attitude that would result
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I actually agree that this sort of attitude would probably be something the cops have to deal with a lot if they were to try seize, lock down people vehicles.
Nail your colours to the mast that all may look upon them and know who you are.
It takes a big man to cry...and an even bigger man to laugh at that man.
SH1 rider
but that comes back to my original point of why the cop stop is more effective than cameras. You don't need to impound. I think the theory has taken the current lack of results so assumed they had to escalate. Journey interruptious in normally enough and avoid escalation from both sides. Remember action and reaction applies to more than physical forces.
Anarchic Wild Child
thats probably a better way to say it
There's probably a better question - what do you want the courts to do? Because punishing people does not/is not reducing crime ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
God's Evil Twin
Start punishing the guilty, rather than the innocent as we currently do that would make a good start then we can work from there
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Anarchic Wild Child
I'm completely in the dark about what you mean ???? How do we punish the innocent? Except for those few cases of a mistaken verdict ...Start punishing the guilty, rather than the innocent as we currently do that would make a good start then we can work from there
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
SH1 rider
interesting question. I especially like the phrase "punishing people does not/is not reducing crime" cause punishment is what has been suggested but enforced by police and not courts. If punishment isn't working who enforces it is irrelevant to its effectiveness in reducing crime and if the police do the enforcement then you also lose the balance. If punishment becomes too harsh for the crime it also becomes irrelevant, just as it does when it is too soft. Is speeding a crime? It breaks the law but we seem to already have different levels of crime. If I rip you off via a financial scam then its not seen as much of a crime if a crime at all providing I'm a stock broker, real estate agent etc. If I break into your house and take your money, even if via an unlocked door or something so no damage is done then you lose the same but it is seen as a crime. Attitude and education as well as punishment. Don't forget the carrot before applying the stick.
God's Evil Twin
not directly, but we do. Obviously if your asking that question you've never been a victim??? or just one of the rare few who actually got justice
Science Is But An Organized System Of Ignorance"Pornography: The thing with billions of views that nobody watches" - WhiteManBehindADesk
Oh yea na sweet as aye cuz.
I did learn you dumb ass! If you actually know how to read, you would have seen that all my fines are paid up and I've only had 3 speeding fines since 2004
I'm only voicing my opinion, the same as you with this stupid PM you have sent me. Now why don't ya voice it in public and make a contribution to the conversation instead of hiding behind a PM.
I have experienced allot of situations with the police and therefore I will share my experiences and thoughts with those that might want to read them. If you don't like that then don't read my posts.
I think the fines do work to an extent, it's just too easy to let them build up.
which is why I was talking about fines defaulters.
But I think the temporary clamp idea would work very well. Clamp my car/bike for two hours and ya have me pissed and thinking about what I have done. Take my car/bike and sell/crush it and you'll have me very pissed, you'll probably have to arrest me (waste of resources) and I'll be plotting to Molotov the police station due to being so angry (I would never actually Molotov a police station but hopefully you see my point)
Thanks
Daniel
Anarchic Wild Child
See .. I don't look to the courts for justice - I take my own ... just no-one's pissed me off that much for oh - since the 1970s ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Forum whore
And then you'd get arrested. No problem there. You know the rules, if you can't play by them or accept the consequences of breaking them then it's your problem, not anyone else's. I'm guessing you're the type who thinks they are hard done by when you get a ticket.
Read a little slower. It may help with your comprehension skills, and that in turn might help with your blood pressure. The current system doesn't work, have a look at how much is in outstanding fines for traffic offences. Do you think these people have learnt anything, other than they can keep on driving with their current habits stockpiling fines that they, if we are lucky, pay off at $10 a week. Taking vehicles off angry people who think it's their god-given right to drive how they like on public roads could only be a good thing.
Loud and Uncouth
Meh, it happens toding-a-lings all the time.
Disqualified driving
Driving while suspended
Driving while forbidden
Sustained loss of traction
The list goes on...
Do them and your car/bike gets plucked from under your sorry arse for 28 DAYS = not just two hours....
Just in case somebody on KB didn't know...
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Forum whore
The clamping idea has merit, just until the fines are paid, mind you...Meh, it happens toding-a-lings all the time.
Disqualified driving
Driving while suspended
Driving while forbidden
Sustained loss of traction
The list goes on...
Do them and your car/bike gets plucked from under your sorry arse for 28 DAYS = not just two hours....
Just in case somebody on KB didn't know...
Of course, there must be a limit to the amount racked up first.
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