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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Sod it, gotta go out and its cold as a widows teat. Been chewing over the Capital Gains Tax so any excuse for delay...

    Ideally we are all born with equal opportunity and make the best of life.

    One significant swerve in that ideal is some families are financially better off than others. So even from the womb some children get out of the starting blocks healthier and with better opportunities.

    I don't think we can or should try and change that. The best our society can do is raise the chances for children in poorer families.

    However beyond that, children grow up and if the family is well off they can - and do - expect a substantial inheiritance. The result is wealth becomes locked up in the hands of people who did not originally create it, but who believe they are entitled.

    So...is it time to reintroduce Death Duties? When you die say 30% of your estate is taken in tax. Let your children forge their own paths in life.
    if you could gaurantee that the tax would go towards something usefull, and not toward stuffing the salaries of fucking cunts like nick smith, Id be for it. but we all know that it simply wouldnt go down how the theiving arseholes in Govt promise it will . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I may be wrong but I think you'll find that's just central government, and probably just income tax based revenue. The correct method of determining how far 'Er Magesties servant's pricks are up your arse is to ask yourself how much of the country's hard-earned passes through their hands.
    Yeah I wondered about that too but its a question I've been looking at recently and so far all the reports seem to include total tax in the calculations. Income tax, VAT, GST, sales tax, stamp duty etc. Happy to be corrected.



    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    if you could gaurantee that the tax would go towards something usefull, and not toward stuffing the salaries of fucking cunts like nick smith, Id be for it. but we all know that it simply wouldnt go down how the theiving arseholes in Govt promise it will . . .
    I agree. Government organisations build in obsolescence and inefficiencies.

    However places like Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway have far higher taxes than us - and better standards of living. Denmark ranks as the happiest country in the world. With the highest taxes.

    Makes ya think...






    Edit: Australia ranked 16, New Zealand 17. Not so bad.

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    I can't complain about the current tax system at the moment ... I just got a $1200 refund ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I can't complain about the current tax system at the moment ... I just got a $1200 refund ...
    hate to break it to ya but thats your money you just got back

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    hate to break it to ya but thats your money you just got back
    true ... but I got it back ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    true ... but I got it back ...
    Yeh but you only got some of it back, they stole the rest and you are "grateful" FFS .... nothing less than "legalised extortion"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Yeh but you only got some of it back, they stole the rest and you are "grateful" FFS .... nothing less than "legalised extortion"!
    Nothing more certain than death and taxes ... I guess they felt guilty about taking it off me in the first place ... and gave some back ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Nothing more certain than death and taxes ... I guess they felt guilty about taking it off me in the first place ... and gave some back ...
    A politician or public servant feeling guilty? ..... .... never ever in a million years! It's not part of their make up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    A politician or public servant feeling guilty? ..... .... never ever in a million years! It's not part of their make up!
    At least the goverment decided not to waste it ALL on the welfare system ...
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    Hmmm...tax

    I personally think capital gains tax is long overdue - in Australia if you earn a buck you get taxed on it, whereas over here if you earn a buck through working you get taxed, but if you earn a buck through owning something you don't. With capital gains you don't actualy add anything that wasn't there yet you get richer.

    As for tax rates, I would rather pay high taxes while earning good money and live in a safe, productive country with a future than pay low taxes in a country where the economy is collapsing, incomes are stagnating or even dropping and social services are degenerating. Earning $100,000 a year and paying 40% tax is better than earning $70,000 a year and paying 15% tax, especially if your 40% tax means roads are better cared for, hospital waiting lists are shorter, unemployment is lower, crime is lower etc (like in the Scandanavian countries).

    We have been fed a mantra of tax cuts since the days of Rapernomics and told that the only way to lift productivity is to cut taxes, and tax cuts are best funded by cuts to civil services (called bureaucracy) and to benefits. I'm a little different in that I believe the best way to lift productivity is to make it easier to be more productive. Increase R&D funding so we can develop high value exports instead of relying on milk powder. Encourage private investment in industry instead of rental houses, increase skills by putting more apprentices on the payroll and get the growing 40+ population to gain new and more contemporary skills so we can continue to be a productive part of society for longer (and deal with agism) and subsidise engineering and technology degrees because they're the ones that will be worth big money. And invest in protecting the value of our clean green brand and find better ways to capitalise on it than jetboating or bungy jumping.

    I heard an economist on the National radio a while ago who said it was actually cheaper to have tens of thousands of people working for the Ministry of Works and Railways etc doing bugger all for a reasonably low wage than having the same people doing nothing on the dole when you factor in the costs drug and alcohol probllems, crime, mental health etc. Probably some truth there.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Capital Gains Tax For All

    Ok, if we must eventually move to capital taxation, then I don't believe there should be exceptions. That means the sales of our homes are taxed.

    The best types of taxation come from simplicity. No exemptions. That way people do not spend time and money constructing ways to avoid the tax.

    That is why the NZ GST regime works so well. It is simple - and difficult to avoid.

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