No Hone, you cannot speak

**Colapop** · 14th July 2011, 14:32

"But but but !!! I won the 'lection !!"

Cannot abide by the rules as stated to you prior to taking the oath aye Hone?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ar-Harawira-in

**Gremlin** · 14th July 2011, 14:40

Gets paid by Government/parliament etc, but doesn't want to play by all the rules?

Could we pay him with beads instead?

FFS... These monkeys (most mps) play games all day, wish they would put in some decent hours of constructive work like the rest of us.

**Bald Eagle** · 14th July 2011, 14:57

Was happy enough to swear when first entered Parliament, now wants to

"swear allegiance to the Treaty of Waitangi rather than the queen"

a cheap grandstand again brother John. He is still happy to accept the Queens shillings every payday though. FFS what a tosser.

**Banditbandit** · 14th July 2011, 15:03

Yeah . much as I hate to agree with you Pākehā ... he was elected - he knew the rules .. he needs to abide by them ... he did last time he was sworn in ...

He wouldn't get away with ignoring or disregarding kawa on a marae ... and he would insist people follow kawa ... this is a Pākehā kawa .. he should follow it ..

**oneofsix** · 14th July 2011, 15:03

Particularily loved the bit where his supports were complaining about the lack of respect. where was his and their respect for the institution he chose to join? Opps forgot it is like racism and only works one way

**imdying** · 14th July 2011, 15:12

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Particularily loved the bit where his supports were complaining about the lack of respect.

What makes you think those calls came from his supporters and not the house?

**oneofsix** · 14th July 2011, 15:16

Originally Posted by imdying

What makes you think those calls came from his supporters and not the house?

Good point. Having re-read it the reporter doesn't make it clear. Bugger now I want to know who, was it his supporters who were already showing a lack of respect for the house by not obeying the speaker or was it the MPs? I presume other 'workers' in parliament don't dare speak out.

Found out. I was wrong. NZ Herald

A National MP yelled "lack of respect" as he left the chamber.

**Banditbandit** · 14th July 2011, 15:23

The report does not make it clear who called "shame" and "No respect" .. if it was the MPs then the comments were directed at Hone .. not in support of him.

**imdying** · 14th July 2011, 15:33

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Found out. I was wrong. NZ Herald

I did wonder... I thought you might have seen a video of it or something. Just seemed like a whitey politician thing to say rather than a wahine giving parliament shite.

That's like Te Reo for a bird in'it BanditBandit?

He has a point he wants to make, and they all twist the house to needs at times, so fair play to him.

**SPman** · 14th July 2011, 16:00

to quote others

This is simply bullshit. There has long been an accepted practice around this: MPs get to make their statement (swearing allegiance to the Treaty, or to the people of New Zealand, or whatever), then they jump through the legal hoop and redo their affirmation in the proper form. If you review the footage of MPs being sworn in after the last three elections you'll see a fair number of MPs doing this. Contrary to the Speaker's assertion, that is not "breaking the law". The affirmation is given. And what matters is that it is given, not what is said beforehand.

**Maha** · 14th July 2011, 16:29

My Party Vote will not go to the party that aligns with that Hori.
Im sorry but that all he is, he cant stand the white man and has no place in NZ'S political future. It all about him, he show no respect at all towards the establishment and continues to be against all that it stands for....the sorry fuck was born that way, its in his blood to be a cunt.

**Banditbandit** · 14th July 2011, 16:34

Originally Posted by imdying

That's like Te Reo for a bird in'it BanditBandit?

I don't understand what you are asking ...

Originally Posted by imdying

He has a point he wants to make, and they all twist the house to needs at times, so fair play to him.

Yeah .. he has a point .. and I happen to agree with him. BUT he knows the rules of being an MP .. this was not the time and place to make a stand. He expects people on his turf to live by his rules (fair enough) .. he should therefore live by the rules of other people's turf if he wishes to interact on that turf ...

**Crasherfromwayback** · 14th July 2011, 16:59

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Yeah .. he has a point .. and I happen to agree with him. BUT he knows the rules of being an MP .. this was not the time and place to make a stand. He expects people on his turf to live by his rules (fair enough) .. he should therefore live by the rules of other people's turf if he wishes to interact on that turf ...

Absolutely!

**riffer** · 14th July 2011, 17:33

Anyone who changes his name from John Hadfield to Hone Harawira has certain "standards" to uphold I guess.

I don't believe that anyone who would disown one side of his whakapapa (grandfather was pakeha) for the other side on purely racial grounds should have any credibility in our society.

**Maha** · 14th July 2011, 17:41

Originally Posted by riffer

Anyone who changes his name from John Hadfield to Hone Harawira has certain "standards" to uphold I guess.

I don't believe that anyone who would disown one side of his whakapapa (grandfather was pakeha) for the other side on purely racial grounds should have any credibility in our society.

You wont find a full Maori anywhere, that bloodline ran out years ago...
Just ask that Irish fulla Ken Mair...

Anyone who says they are Maori are at best.....half right.