Radler beer by style, but not name

[scumdog]

Meh, just call it Redlar....it'll look the same at first glance...

[Indiana_Jones]

Because it's a style of beer - it's like saying only DB can use the word Lager.

What he said.

-Indy

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Oh yeah, Radler is a shandy, right? beer with lemonade? So its a mixed drink, like say a martini?

Yes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy#Radler

I like how Greenman now call it "cyclist" I find that ammusing.

[blue rider]

a little history on this lovely summer brew...
In the mountains of Germany and Austria, the bicyclists (Radler in German) need a good refreshment, and a little additional nutritious fortification after a long climb up a mountain road in the blazing, humid weather, but they also need the soberness and strength to return home, down the long, steep hills.

yes beer is considered a basic nutrient in bavaria....the little bit one eats, one can drink....

From these excursions has developed the concept of a beer and lemon-lime mixture in Germany and Austria, the Radler and the Russ - the russian, basically the same as the Shandy in England. The Radler is a normal "Helles" or a pilsner-style beer with 1/2 lemon-lime soda, and the Russ is a mixture of 1/2 Weizenbeer, and 1/2 lemon-lime soda, - refreshing, relaxing, and enjoyable.
Various names have emerged for this mix from the various breweries such as Alsterwasser, Russ'n, Weizenradler, Kristall Radler, etc. The name Alsterwasser was used in place of Radler because earlier, the Alster river in northern Germany was considered a source of cleaner water, and even though the beer was not brewed from this river water, the lightness, and clarity served to distinguish this light, clear beer mixture.

The origin of many mixed "concoctions" of beer and ... are unknown; however, the source of the Radler is reported as follows:

On a hot summer afternoon in June of 1922, Franz Xaver Kugler, the owner of a Inn high in the Alps of Bavaria realized that he did not have enough beer to accommodate all of his guests for the day, both bicyclists as well as mountain hikers. Hence, he decided to offer his remaining beer, interestingly a dark beer, as a mixture of beer and lemon-lime soda of which he had an ample supply, and thus he nick-named his newly-found drink after the bicyclists,- hence a RADLER!


the best Radler is beer from the tap and mixed in with lemonade on the spot and comes in a 1 liter Glass, oh the joys of summer

[Oakie]

Weizenbeer

That name just makes me giggle like a schoolboy when I read it.

Apart from that, thanks for the info on my favourite drop.

[blue rider]

That name just makes me giggle like a schoolboy when I read it.

Throttle, oh how I like this word....thrrrrrrrrooooottttllle

[Scuba_Steve]

I see fontera's tryin it on too, apparently only they can use "vintage"

[davereid]

Yeah, I have an OIA request in for copies of anything they discussed about Radler, memos emails, gifts, meeting minutes etc.

They will try and dodge it.

Interested beer drinkers should all do the same - they CAN dodge OIA requests. But if enough people write, it gets very uncomfortable.

If it interests you, put in an OIA requests for anything they discussed about Radler, even internal stuff.

[Oakie]

I see fontera's tryin it on too, apparently only they can use "vintage"

Fonterra (or whatever they called themselves back then) registered 'Vintage' as their own name for aged cheese about 30 years ago. It's only now they are getting all possessive over it.

[koba]

Yeah, I have an OIA request in for copies of anything they discussed about Radler, memos emails, gifts, meeting minutes etc.

They will try and dodge it.

Interested beer drinkers should all do the same - they CAN dodge OIA requests. But if enough people write, it gets very uncomfortable.

If it interests you, put in an OIA requests for anything they discussed about Radler, even internal stuff.

I think I'll just stick to buying and making better beer.

Has anyone noticed the DB Radler isn't really all that true to what it claims to be because it is full strength? I would have put low alcohol down as a defining characteristic of a true Radler or Shandy. The Green Man Cyclist is lower alcohol.

[Berries]

I see fontera's tryin it on too, apparently only they can use "vintage"

I'll have to tell my Granma. Wonder if the Fonterra lawyers will go after her? Wankers.

Has anyone noticed the DB Radler isn't really all that true to what it claims to be because it is full strength?

DB can get fucked too. Wankers. IP is all fine and dandy until you come to widely used terms like these.

Is the word wanker trademarked?

Wankers.

[avgas]

Because it's a style of beer - it's like saying only DB can use the word Lager.

On the news Fonterra have just trademarked the word Vintage so no other cheese makers can use it.

Lobbying, corruption or stupidity (or all three) is alive and well in iponz by the looks.

Booo hooo
Does this stop companies instantly making good beer? Or just stop them thinking of innovative new names?

Nope.

Out of interest. Google Pils / Pilsner.......
Its happened before.

Push the button to the 3rd floor and move on.

[Berries]

If only they would ban Speights.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Its no different than if DB tried to trademark the term lager, or stout etc...

Lagar, stout, ale, porter etc... Should they be able to be a trademark on them as well...

[oneofsix]

I think I'll just stick to buying and making better beer.

Has anyone noticed the DB Radler isn't really all that true to what it claims to be because it is full strength? I would have put low alcohol down as a defining characteristic of a true Radler or Shandy. The Green Man Cyclist is lower alcohol.

the fact that DB's radler isn't a radler and the Green Man's radler is a true radler was mentioned as part of the argument.

Wasn't it DB that ran the ads on how the stood up for the little man against the big government bullies? Looks like they have created a case for one of their own Tui billboards.