Who will win the 2011 election?

[shrub]

Na, just the champagne socialists who say we should all do our bi to help the environment yet don't want to give up their chelsea tractors....

-Indy

Oh dear, you're getting a little confused. I think it might be a good idea to make yourself a nice cup of cocoa and have an early night.

[mashman]

Pretty good summation, but I don't hate the rich and I doubt you do either - I hate the greedy. There are many rich people who are quite happy to pay their way and be a part of making things better for everyone - Gareth and Sam Morgan and Selwyn Pellett in NZ spring to mind. Then you have the greedy who remind me of Gollum in their paranoid terror of having to actually pay tax "my precioussss, they wants my precious they does, nasssssty greenies". Over my life I have known many of them (and even been one once), and almost without exception they are unhappy and frightened people, constantly paranoid about someone getting one over them. Their paranoia about climate change is a case in point - they're not worried about the impact of climate change on the world they live in, or even their ability to make money - their sole fear is having to pay more tax.

It's amusing, but at the same time sad and a little pathetic.

you are correct, I don't hate them at all... I've met some absolutely stunning rich people. Even the "old school" rich. But that means I hate them for an entirely different reason . Possibly the stupid attitude ...

Yes, I remember watching a pre-budget item on the news a couple of years ago ... a small businessman was asked "What do you want from this budget?" His answer? "Lower taxes and more money spent on Education "

I thought .. shit, you are not likely to get both ...

waaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... was he short, or was it a man with a small business?

I think it's more to do with the fact that they're expected to pay a greater percentage compared to those on a lower income rather then paying.

lollipops... I fully understand their point of view. But I'm still not sure if that's because it's their money or wether they think it's being wasted?

[Quasievil]

How will it negatively impact the economy and how is it an arse? It's too weak, but not an arse.

yes it is an arse, its was a complete waste of time most of the major developed countries didn't sign into it and yet our dumarses nick smith and co used it as a basis for the tax scam.
Quote from Not PC blog.
DEAUVILLE, France: Russia, Japan and Canada told the G8 they would not join a second round of carbon cuts under the Kyoto Protocol at United Nations talks this year and the US reiterated it would remain outside the treaty, European diplomats have said…
Developed countries signed the Kyoto Protocol in 1997. They agreed to legally binding commitments on curbing greenhouse gas emissions blamed for global warming.
Those pledges expire at the end of next year. Developing countries say a second round is essential to secure global agreements.
But the leaders of Russian, Japan and Canada confirmed they would not join a new Kyoto agreement, the diplomats said. [Moreover] at last Thursday’s G8 dinner the US President, Barack Obama, confirmed Washington would not join an updated Kyoto Protocol, the diplomats said.

Which means Kyoto is dead.

Which means New Zealand has no “Kyoto obligations.”

Which means neither farmers not any other producer has any “Kyoto obligation” to meet.

Are you listening John and Nick and Phil and Julia and Cate? Because you can be damn sure voters will be.

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I see. And you called my friend an idiot?

yes he is a self confess green supporter, of course he is

Can you try that again please? It doesn't make sense.

Ok, let me answer that by asking you, will another Eco realted tax bennifit NZ and how exactly will it ?

You really have been listening to Wayne with the grouse Holden. What percentage of refugees are Somalians and how many are on benefits? But you're right, they want to increase the quota from 750 to 1000. How is that a bad thing? Umm, you're not racist are you?

Who is this wayne and the grouse holden?
I live in Hamilsomalia, out side a few in taxis I dont recall seeing any others working anywhere.
They dont fit into our society period, with Somalis im completely racist, they can fuck off.

The Treaty is a fundamental constitutional document and your paranoia is more seperatist than anything the Greens advocate. Are you sure you're not racist?

if its a a somali im a racist im a selective racist.
Im from a Maori blood line, even granddaddy signed the fucking thing (tehakeke was his name look it up)
the treaty was a fuck up from the start.
New Zealand needs a new constitution to bind us together, the fuck up version "treaty of waitangi " will continue to hold the common Maori individual back for eternity he doesn't benefit from it one bit. Its like the Kyoto protocol is an arse.

Um, wrong again. From their website:
"The Green Party recognises that:

A drug-free lifestyle is the healthiest;
All drugs can cause harm, regardless of their legal status.
Not all drug use is problematic.
Some current government policies do not reduce harm but rather create a further set of problems"

You cant read that for what it means?
"not all drug use is problematic" Hello Shrub.....mate what you think that means
"Some current government policies do not reduce harm but rather create a further set of problems" mmmmm like um lets legalise it

How so? If you are a high carbob producer then I think it's perfectly OK for you to pay for your use of the atmosphere as a waste dump - it's called user pays.

If you are so stupid as to buy into the whole Carbon emmisions crap then more fool you mate, and the money goes where ? to the earth gods so they can employ little faires to filter the naughty little carbons out of the atmosphere?
Its a Tax scam of the highest order !

For what? A lover? A neighbour? A best friend? I think you might be racist you know.

you missed the point

Sounds like you have had a few too many beers and I fail to see how the condition of your bar leaner is the green parties fault. Or is that what Wayne told you?

the holes are from the looney greens having love sex with the trees, as illustrated earlier, fuck bro must I draw a picture for you.

[shrub]

yes it is an arse....tax scam....quote from Not PC blog...tax...I live in Hamilsomalia...Tax scam.

To summarise what you have said:

1. You base your opinions on information gleaned from blogs. Did you know Elvis is still alive? And that space aliens visit earth? Or that the world will end in 2012? I'll point you to the blogs if you like.
2. You are paranoid about paying tax. Sorry, tax is a reality and if you can't afford to pay your share I suggest you get a job where you earn more money or move to a country where there is no tax. Like Somalia.
3. You hate everyone from Somalia for the sole reason they were born in Somalia. Yes, entirely reasonable and very understandable. I hate everyone who was born in Te Puke for exactly the same reason. Except the chick with the big tits who works at the pub, I think she's great.
4. You think all drug use is problematic. Did you know that alcohol (which you use) and coffee are drugs? Did you know that marijuana isn't actually bad for you if used in moderation and only becomes a problem when abused or used by people under 18? And that a lot of highly successful people use marijuana?
5. You don't believe that human activity is causing climate change. Actually, neither do I, it's the decline in the number of pirates that is causing it. There is a statistically significant inverse relationship between the number of pirates and global temperature, and Somalia (you gotta love that) has the highest population of pirates in the world and one of the lowest per capita carbon emissions. I found that on a blog, and I have a graph of it, so it must be true.
6. You're from Hamilton. I should have guessed, the spelling alone gave it away.

Thanks for that, you have made my day.

[Quasievil]

To summarise what you have said:

1. You base your opinions on information gleaned from blogs. Did you know Elvis is still alive? And that space aliens visit earth? Or that the world will end in 2012? I'll point you to the blogs if you like.
2. You are paranoid about paying tax. Sorry, tax is a reality and if you can't afford to pay any more I suggest you get a job where you earn more money.
3. You hate everyone from Somalia for the sole reason they were born in Somalia. Yes, entirely reasonable and very understandable. I hate everyone who was born in Te Puke for exactly the same reason. Except the chick with the big tits who works at the pub, I think she's great.
4. You think all drug use is problematic. Did you know that alcohol (which you use) and coffee are drugs? Did you know that marijuana isn't actually bad for you if used in moderation and only becomes a problem when abused or used by people under 18? And that a lot of highly successful people use marijuana?
5. You don't believe that human activity is causing climate change. Actually, neither do I, it's the decline in the number of pirates that is causing it. There is a statistically significant inverse relationship between the number of pirates and global temperature, and Somalia (you gotta love that) has the highest population of pirates in the world and one of the lowest per capita carbon emissions. I found that on a blog, and I have a graph of it, so it must be true.
6. You're from Hamilton. I should have guessed, the spelling alone gave it away.

Thanks for that, you have made my day.

1/ I dont buy in to the climate change "scam of the century" my opinions are formed from way more than simple blogs.
Youre wrong about Elvis, and the earth ending in 2012, who would know regarding Aliens, not sure what your point is there.
Climate change is not man made its natural, a simple understanding of the facts will educate you in this subject, I recommend you look into it a bit.
I object 100% that this "climate change" scenario is utilised as a revenue source by the politicians, it isnt based on concluded science at all, far from that its based on scare mongering tactics fuelled by those who can make a buck and the loony left green plonkers who would buy into anything remotely associated with subject headed as "save the....."
2/ Tax a reality ??? what planet are you on Shrub, dont you think I know this ?
Im not disagreeing with tax, Im disagreeing with NEW TAX that is formed from stupid "save the....." scams, a ECO tax stinks of this, and you would be a nutter to think for a moment that this kind of eco taxation will do one fucking thing to save anything or improve anything, especially when the super power economies dont give a toss, not to mention a volcano erupting more emissions than the entire human race does in a year in a single day.
You vote for it and you pay the Eco taxes if thats what you think will improve the economy, it wont I promise you.
3/ I dont like somalies, and I dont really like any imigrant that simply does not fit into the NZ way of life, thats it, I dont care what Im labelled NZ is not for extreme cultures.
4/ NO, coffee and Alcohol are drugs ? I dont agree that making dope and or harder drugs are going to do this country any favours, I dont agree with our liquor laws either. And I certainly wouldnt vote for some loony greeny advocating that we should legalise dope because some successful people use it, like thats a soldi arguement.
5/ Pirates, Elvis, Aliens..............okay youre taking the piss, thats fine, but when you grow up and want to discuss policey of the looney greens with me let me know, thus far you havent raised a solid case on anything, so I stand uncorrected.

your freind and yourself are confused politically and have been far to long mouth open feeding on the crap that the media has shoved down it.
free thinking is just that , free !

for me I dont have any political alignment, thus far there are NO parties worthy of representing me in New Zealand, I will vote however.

Oh lastly, your from Tepuke giving me shit about being from Hamilton ???? oh dear you are confused.

thanks for the fun, its nice to know there are some brain dead voters to take the piss out off.



lol

[shrub]

... your from Tepuke giving me shit about being from Hamilton ???? oh dear you are confused.l

Muppets, too funny!

[imdying]

Muppets, too funny!

Hey, leave The Muppets out of this!

[shrub]

Hey, leave The Muppets out of this!

I didn't invite them, they came along of their own accord. But fuck they're funny, I have no intention of discouraging them.

[Quasievil]

Being Green aint easy

[shrub]

Being Green aint easy

Your paranoia is showing Quasi. I bet right now Al Gore, Nandor Tancoz and Nick Smith are sitting in a secret bunker under the IRD headquarters planning a new tax aimed specially at YOU! Might I suggest a lead helmet? It stops their tingle rays from reading your mind and brainwashing you - something they have done very successfully over AGW. You have no idea how many scientists, businesspeople, politicians, academics etc have been brainwashed into believing in it!

It's down to people like you and me mate, together we can spread the word and break down this evil scam that is threatening to crush the delicate flower of capitalism before it blossoms.

[Banditbandit]

waaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... was he short, or was it a man with a small business?

Actually, I think he was both - but it's hard to tell someone's height on TV ..

[Banditbandit]

And the causal link is?

[shrub]

And the causal link is?

There doesn't have to be a causal link - all there has to be is a correlation. Don't you know ANYTHING?

[Banditbandit]

There doesn't have to be a causal link - all there has to be is a correlation. Don't you know ANYTHING?

Sorry but in MY, admittedly leftwing looney, weltanschaung the data only makes sense if a causal link can be established ..

[Quasievil]

Your paranoia is showing Quasi. I bet right now Al Gore, Nandor Tancoz and Nick Smith are sitting in a secret bunker under the IRD headquarters planning a new tax aimed specially at YOU!

To late my little green muppet they have done it and executed it, they called it the ETS
im sure you and the looney left are happy thats in place and we will all be saved.
if you hug a tree this weekend Im sure it will hug you back.