Who will win the 2011 election?

[shrub]

This is pretty sobering stuff but between me and my wife, we must be on the edges of that 9.7%. I don't exactly feel destitiute.

Just sayin'

I'm betting that the figures arnt too different in Aus either. I Wonder how that compares with the wealth distribution.

It amuses (and saddens) me to see people on high incomes complaining about how done they are. My partner and I made a decision to make some big sacrifices now as an investment for tomorrow, and I am studying full time towards something that will have us pretty well set up for the duration. As a result our combined family income is under $75k, and we have 2 kids and a mortgage between us. We live in a very nice 4 brm home, pay all our bills on time, have enough money to go out for dinner now and again and fund hobbies and interests.

[Banditbandit]

YUP. +1

I earn more than $70k per annum. I certainly don't feel hard done by ... I live well, pay all my bills, (my wife's not working at present) I own my own house (owe the bank a bit) own a boat - two bikes (no money owing on either bikes or boat) eat well ... have cash in the bank.

More than $600 goes straight out of my pay each fortnight into PAYE .. I don't begrudge that ..

I don't have any kids ... so no child support or Working for Families ...

Shit I must be one of that small minority who pay all the tax ...

[Oscar]

It amuses (and saddens) me to see people on high incomes complaining about how done they are. My partner and I made a decision to make some big sacrifices now as an investment for tomorrow, and I am studying full time towards something that will have us pretty well set up for the duration. As a result our combined family income is under $75k, and we have 2 kids and a mortgage between us. We live in a very nice 4 brm home, pay all our bills on time, have enough money to go out for dinner now and again and fund hobbies and interests.

Where are these people on high incomes complaining about how "hard done" they are? The fact that you're satisfied doesn't make it right, and doesn't stop people voting with thier feet.

My issues are: generational welfare dependancy, the waste of potential caused by the system and people talking about their "rights" in respect of welfare.
There has to be a better way.

[mashman]

Shit I must be one of that small minority who pay all the tax ...

heh, I earn way more than I should, wife hasn't worked for 8 years (lazy shitbag), support 3 kids (and the odd chunk to overseas son), pay a huge mortgage, pay my bills, own the car, own the bike and pay tax like it's going out of fashion and don't structure my affairs to dodge my taxation obligations (which earned me "sympathy" from a lady on the phone a few weeks ago after she asked if I was tax efficient)...

Honestly, I'd give it all to NZ Inc if we ever went down the TRULY Free Local Economy route...

[Oscar]

Honestly, I'd give it all to NZ Inc if we ever went down the Free Local Economy route...

So, when you start your economic revolution, how will you pay for the next Aprillia?

[mashman]

So, when you start your economic revolution, how will you pay for the next Aprillia?

Figure it out for yourself... unless of course you don't have the mental capacity (I don't need, and probably will never buy another bike)

[Oscar]

Figure it out for yourself... unless of course you don't have the mental capacity (I don't need, and probably will never buy another bike)

Are you assuming that I could figure out your economic revolution based on your ‎fetid ranting here? I don't frequent bong_abusers.com, so you may have to elucidate further...

[mashman]

Are you assuming that I could figure out your economic revolution based on your ‎fetid ranting here? I don't frequent bong_abusers.com, so you may have to elucidate further...

Yes, you should be able to... but... All it will take, for me to get a new Prila, is to put in a purchase request.

[Banditbandit]

Yes, you should be able to... but... All it will take, for me to get a new Prila, is to put in a purchase request.

Naaaa .... Naaaaa ....

That's too subtle - you'll have to elaborate .. seems way way way too good to be true ..

[mashman]

Naaaa .... Naaaaa ....

That's too subtle - you'll have to elaborate .. seems way way way too good to be true ..

This very day, should I decide to go out and buy another Prila, I will have to check how much money I have in the bank. If I have enough, ppppft with 4 women in the house, then I buy it, or order it.

In the FREE Local Economy, I submit a purchase request. If there's nothing on tradeFree , and the cash is available, my Govt, yes I will have a govt, a proper functioning one though, one arm finance, one arm logistics, one arm social, my govt will approve my purchase et voila. Should my request be turned down, why would I care, obviously the country couldn't afford it.

Or something along those lines

[pzkpfw]

This very day, should I decide to go out and buy another Prila, I will have to check how much money I have in the bank. If I have enough, ppppft with 4 women in the house, then I buy it, or order it.

In the FREE Local Economy, I submit a purchase request. If there's nothing on tradeFree , and the cash is available, my Govt, yes I will have a govt, a proper functioning one though, one arm finance, one arm logistics, one arm social, my govt will approve my purchase et voila. Should my request be turned down, why would I care, obviously the country couldn't afford it.

Or something along those lines

So just the same, but wrapped up in a huge inefficient beurocracy? (sp?)

I guess that's where we'll put all the unemployed people - the purchase request analysis depertment.


(If two people want the bike, but there's cash for one - what happens? What if we all put in requests for Ferrrrraris?)

[Oscar]

This very day, should I decide to go out and buy another Prila, I will have to check how much money I have in the bank. If I have enough, ppppft with 4 women in the house, then I buy it, or order it.

In the FREE Local Economy, I submit a purchase request. If there's nothing on tradeFree , and the cash is available, my Govt, yes I will have a govt, a proper functioning one though, one arm finance, one arm logistics, one arm social, my govt will approve my purchase et voila. Should my request be turned down, why would I care, obviously the country couldn't afford it.

Or something along those lines

Sounds like the Mormon Church.

[mashman]

So just the same, but wrapped up in a huge inefficient beurocracy? (sp?)

I guess that's where we'll put all the unemployed people - the purchase request analysis depertment.


(If two people want the bike, but there's cash for one - what happens? What if we all put in requests for Ferrrrraris?)

You can make it as convoluted as you like... although I'd argue the beaurocracy (fook da spellin) would be removed by the computer saying no... bit like yer bank account does at the moment.

I have no doubt that if the system was put in place, you could probably add another million to the dole Q... give or take...

(perhaps you could share )

Sounds like the Mormon Church.

Perhaps they should win this years election

[Banditbandit]

Perhaps they should win this years election

Perhaps they shouldn't ... the current bunch of one-eyed politicians can't be as bad as Joseph Smith and his tinted glasses with Angelic Accompanyment

[admenk]

Perhaps they should win this years election

One wife's enough for me, thanks