View Poll Results: Who Will Win 2011 Election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    YUP. +1

    I earn more than $70k per annum. I certainly don't feel hard done by ... I live well, pay all my bills, (my wife's not working at present) I own my own house (owe the bank a bit) own a boat - two bikes (no money owing on either bikes or boat) eat well ... have cash in the bank.

    More than $600 goes straight out of my pay each fortnight into PAYE .. I don't begrudge that ..

    I don't have any kids ... so no child support or Working for Families ...

    Shit I must be one of that small minority who pay all the tax ...
    Your contribution is thankfully received "and" is used frugally on essential goods! Cheers, Mr and Mrs oldrider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Where are these people on high incomes complaining about how "hard done" they are?
    try on good old KB for a start. The facade put forward by the right whingers is that they are all high income eaners, and all they ever do is whine and complain about...

    generational welfare dependancy, the waste of potential caused by the system
    the only problem is, as a percentage there aren't a lot of people who are multi-generational welfare recipients and they really don't get a hell of a lot of money.

    There has to be a better way.
    Yes, but the mantra of cutting benefits and making benefits harder to get no more deals with the problem than putting more petrol in my bike deals with the problem that it's slow. if anything those methods actually make things worse, but they're popular with the voters, so that's what we'll do.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Those of you who think voting for Act or the Nats because they are the parties that have policies that justly reward hard work should look at the effect of similar policies in the states.

    Like turkeys voting for Christmas...
    Redefining slow since 2006...

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    Who'll win the election?

    John Key will win it for his party of useless reactionaries, with less sense of history and what works for a society than my cat!

    And if NZ voters reckon a state house raised, 90's wide boy, who made his millions gambling with other peoples money in ponzi schemes that destroyed countless lives and likes being Prime Minister so he can meet celebrities and hob nob with more of his ilk is a person to aspire to, than you're welcome to what's coming - more of the '90s style National administration that did so much to ensure NZ'ers wages and lifestyle was driven into the ground.
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Who'll win the election?

    John Key will win it for his party of useless reactionaries, with less sense of history and what works for a society than my cat!

    And if NZ voters reckon a state house raised, 90's wide boy, who made his millions gambling with other peoples money in ponzi schemes that destroyed countless lives and likes being Prime Minister so he can meet celebrities and hob nob with more of his ilk is a person to aspire to, than you're welcome to what's coming - more of the 80s /90s style Labour and National administrations that did so much to ensure NZ'ers wages and lifestyle was driven into the ground.
    There I fixed that for you, you accidentally left Labour out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post

    John Key will win it...if NZ voters reckon a state house raised, 90's wide boy, who made his millions gambling with other peoples money in ponzi schemes that destroyed countless lives ...
    Sorry mate can't let that pass.

    John Key was a currency trader and a very good one. It is a rare skill and most currency traders burn out.

    We actually need people like this because they flatten out the highs and lows of exchange rates. Remember - for every buyer there is a seller. Businesses like to be able to buy forward exchange cover to guarantee the exchange rate in say, 6 months time when they export logs/milk/electronics or buy oil/cars/electronics.

    Currency traders calculate and provide those forward contracts. That is their job. If they do it right there is a tiny margin (but multiplied by millions) for the bank they work for.

    Occasionally they get it wrong - Nick Leeson destroyed Barings Bank. http://www.scribd.com/doc/16606536/C...nd-Nick-Leeson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post

    John Key was a currency trader and a very good one.
    Don't you mean he was very good at gambling with other peoples money - oops that's what he is still doing , only now it's our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    Don't you mean he was very good at gambling with other peoples money - oops that's what he is still doing , only now it's our money.
    Yeah yeah, we know, but he's got ever such a nice smile, and that's all that matters isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Those of you who think voting for Act or the Nats because they are the parties that have policies that justly reward hard work should look at the effect of similar policies in the states.

    Like turkeys voting for Christmas...
    Good link and I agree there is a huge disconnect between effort and reward in the USA. Strangely enough though, Americans seem to embrace it on the proposition that anyone can achieve wealth and success.

    You'd think times would be changing but the latest brouhaha over govt borrowing levels shows an almost pathological abhorrence of increased taxation.

    However I don't perceive anyone apart from perhaps ACT as pursuing similar policies in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admenk View Post
    Yeah yeah, we know, but he's got ever such a nice smile, and that's all that matters isn't it?
    And he's a good family man. The perfect PM in my book.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Good link and I agree there is a huge disconnect between effort and reward in the USA.
    Not just the US ... I doubt it's a global phenomenon though
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Good link and I agree there is a huge disconnect between effort and reward in the USA.
    Ain't just the US...look at the problems in the UK when those that pick up rewards for SFA effort thought they might be under threat of having to work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Lobster View Post
    Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    Don't you mean he was very good at gambling with other peoples money -
    You could say that but its meaningless. Your local bank teller also gambles with your money when you get her to set up a term deposit. You gamble that your employer is going to pay you at the end of the week - why not insist on getting the money first up front? You gamble your money when you order anything online.



    IMHO we live in a weird nation when a person is disrespected because they achieve success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    IMHO we live in a weird nation when a person is disrespected because they achieve success.
    Welcome to our world .... NZ is about as weird as it gets in that respect!

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    The Ayan Rand six step.
    Step one: Discredit government.
    Step two: Starve it.
    Step three: When the underfunded government can’t perform, stand back and say “I told you so.”
    Step four: Create the myth of the individual uber-alles – the Marlboro man on steroids;
    Step five: If anyone gets wise, find a scapegoat and blame it on them – gays, immigrants, government workers; government working gay immigrants, dole bludgers, solo mums....
    Step six: When things get bad, divide and conquer – “if it wasn’t for them…........

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