Who will win the 2011 election?

[SMOKEU]

Back to the election though - who are you going to vote for to get your version of Fortress NZ implemented? Winnie?

Upon advice given to me by various people, I'll probably vote NZ First. Winston Peters actually seems like a very intelligent person, and he has distanced himself from Maori affairs compared to the likes of old Hone and other members of the Maori party.
I would vote for National Front, but that turned to shit after Kyle Chapman left so they're not running for parliament any more.

[mashman]

I don't have a problem with white immigrants, it's just black immigrants that we don't need any more of in NZ. I challenge you to name me 1 civilized black majority country which isn't poor and corrupt. The whole Islam world is seriously f***ed, as is Africa. Many Asian countries are the same (with the exception of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and a few others).

That's just silly. A person is a person, t'was, tis, the white man who views them differently. Similar to women, "those" groups have only recently (last 100 ish years for women, last 50ish for "blacks") been given rights, and those rights were given by the white folk. Farkin pathetic, and we wonder why there's racism in the world. Tis the white mans creation, not the other way around.

[SMOKEU]

That's just silly. A person is a person, t'was, tis, the white man who views them differently. Similar to women, "those" groups have only recently (last 100 ish years for women, last 50ish for "blacks") been given rights, and those rights were given by the white folk. Farkin pathetic, and we wonder why there's racism in the world. Tis the white mans creation, not the other way around.

If your theory is true, then STATISTICALLY why do blacks commit more crime on average than whites? Why do blacks tend to abuse their children more often? Why do blacks tend to be more poor than whites? I'm not saying that every white is a saint, as there are plenty of blacks who are highly educated, honest people, and there are plenty of whites who are child molesters, murderers etc.

Why are there more Maori people in prison (per capita) than whites? Why is the GDP per capita generally lower in black majority countries than in white majority countries?

Australia was a penal colony in a big desert surrounded by ocean. Why has that prospered, while black majority countries in Africa have not?

[short-circuit]

If your theory is true, then STATISTICALLY why do blacks commit more crime on average than whites? Why do blacks tend to abuse their children more often? Why do blacks tend to be more poor than whites? I'm not saying that every white is a saint, as there are plenty of blacks who are highly educated, honest people, and there are plenty of whites who are child molesters, murderers etc.

Why are there more Maori people in prison (per capita) than whites? Why is the GDP per capita generally lower in black majority countries than in white majority countries?

Australia was a penal colony in a big desert surrounded by ocean. Why has that prospered, while black majority countries in Africa have not?

Tit. How about limiting immigration using an IQ threshold?

[SMOKEU]

Tit. How about limiting immigration using an IQ threshold?

That could work.

[Banditbandit]

Are we not losing profesionals that represent economic growth assets and gaining uneducated third world economic liabilities?

'Cause eventually that would cause some economic deterioration, wouldn't it?






Oh wait...

Maybe .. maybe not .. the last figurs I saw showed it was the unqualified and unskilled which was the biggest group who were leaving ... Yes, plenty of people are leaving - bt the idea of a "brain drain" is a bit of a myth ..

[Banditbandit]

That could work.

And you would not have been allowed in ...

[short-circuit]

And you would not have been allowed in ...

Thanks for helping him to join the dots. Sometimes subtlety is misplaced round here

[Ocean1]

Maybe .. maybe not .. the last figurs I saw showed it was the unqualified and unskilled which was the biggest group who were leaving ... Yes, plenty of people are leaving - bt the idea of a "brain drain" is a bit of a myth ..

Is it now?

If you added up the total income of those that've left and compared it to that of immigrents for the same timescale you'd see a significant drop.

[mashman]

If your theory is true, then STATISTICALLY why do blacks commit more crime on average than whites? Why do blacks tend to abuse their children more often? Why do blacks tend to be more poor than whites? I'm not saying that every white is a saint, as there are plenty of blacks who are highly educated, honest people, and there are plenty of whites who are child molesters, murderers etc.

Why are there more Maori people in prison (per capita) than whites? Why is the GDP per capita generally lower in black majority countries than in white majority countries?

Australia was a penal colony in a big desert surrounded by ocean. Why has that prospered, while black majority countries in Africa have not?

Fuck the large post, here's the crux. It all comes down to money. Per capita measurements of anything are flawed. Poor areas produce "overt" criminals black and white... and vice versa for richer areas.

Oz v Africa. One 200 years old with 25 million people v's a really really old country with 1+ billion people and only just stepping out of the shadow of the white mans "oppression" rights wise and carrying a debt that will never be paid off whilst the white mans corps own the minerals, because it goes part way to paying off the debt.

[SMOKEU]

Fuck the large post, here's the crux. It all comes down to money. Per capita measurements of anything are flawed. Poor areas produce "overt" criminals black and white... and vice versa for richer areas.

Oz v Africa. One 200 years old with 25 million people v's a really really old country with 1+ billion people and only just stepping out of the shadow of the white mans "oppression" rights wise and carrying a debt that will never be paid off whilst the white mans corps own the minerals, because it goes part way to paying off the debt.

What white mans oppression? These countries are run by blacks. The fact remains that blacks in general are unable to work together for a common (good) cause, such as forming a stable government. Whenever you get such a situation occurring, corruption is almost always rife.

Look at the fact that there is always war in the Middle East. This is because these uncivilized animals are let loose to roam freely. If you don't believe me then I can provide links to videos which will show you how bad these people really are. In order to preserve NZ culture and heritage we need to keep these people out.

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[mashman]

What white mans oppression?

This white mans oppression.

Congo independence from Belgium 1960
Algerian independence from France 1962
Here's a few South African PM's up til 1984 Notice anything about them?
Equatorial Guinea independence from Spain 1968
Nigeria independence from UK 1960
Egypt independence from UK 1922
Niger independence from France 1960
Angola independence from Portugal 1975
Namibia independence from South Africa 1990
Mozambique independence from Portugal 1975
Zambia independence from UK 1964
Algeria independence from France 1962
Sierra Leone independence from UK 1961
Zimbabwe independence from UK 1980
Côte d'Ivoire independence from France 1960
Burkina Faso independence from France 1960
Uganda independence from UK 1962
Ghana independence from UK 1960
Senegal independence from France 1960

Talk about pulling the rug out from underneath the feet of a continent and leaving behind a shitstorm...

I'm guessing there are a few others too, but it's late and I'm tired... nighty night

[SMOKEU]

This white mans oppression.

Congo independence from Belgium 1960
Algerian independence from France 1962
Here's a few South African PM's up til 1984 Notice anything about them?
Equatorial Guinea independence from Spain 1968
Nigeria independence from UK 1960
Egypt independence from UK 1922
Niger independence from France 1960
Angola independence from Portugal 1975
Namibia independence from South Africa 1990
Mozambique independence from Portugal 1975
Zambia independence from UK 1964
Algeria independence from France 1962
Sierra Leone independence from UK 1961
Zimbabwe independence from UK 1980
Côte d'Ivoire independence from France 1960
Burkina Faso independence from France 1960
Uganda independence from UK 1962
Ghana independence from UK 1960
Senegal independence from France 1960

Talk about pulling the rug out from underneath the feet of a continent and leaving behind a shitstorm...

I'm guessing there are a few others too, but it's late and I'm tired... nighty night

You've certainly done your research.

[ellipsis]

Maybe .. maybe not .. the last figurs I saw showed it was the unqualified and unskilled which was the biggest group who were leaving ... Yes, plenty of people are leaving - bt the idea of a "brain drain" is a bit of a myth ..

...myth indeed...thats why Jesus wasn't born a KIWI...they couldnt find three wise men and a virgin...and that was yonks ago...

[JATZ]

This white mans oppression.

Congo independence from Belgium 1960
Algerian independence from France 1962
Here's a few South African PM's up til 1984 Notice anything about them?
Equatorial Guinea independence from Spain 1968
Nigeria independence from UK 1960
Egypt independence from UK 1922
Niger independence from France 1960
Angola independence from Portugal 1975
Namibia independence from South Africa 1990
Mozambique independence from Portugal 1975
Zambia independence from UK 1964
Algeria independence from France 1962
Sierra Leone independence from UK 1961
Zimbabwe independence from UK 1980
Côte d'Ivoire independence from France 1960
Burkina Faso independence from France 1960
Uganda independence from UK 1962
Ghana independence from UK 1960
Senegal independence from France 1960

Talk about pulling the rug out from underneath the feet of a continent and leaving behind a shitstorm...

I'm guessing there are a few others too, but it's late and I'm tired... nighty night

Question.... What state do you think those country's would be if they hadn't been "oppressed" by the white man ? And what would happen if N.Z. was left to the native population who were here when whitey arrived ?