Who will win the 2011 election?

[SPman]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to shrub/rainman again.

[Quasievil]

Well Shrub, Rainman, Spman

can you please advise me which part of "my argument" is of particular concern?

did I even have one?

[Winston001]

Because we are a "dull and visionless people, almost universally lacking in capability and intelligence". We're "governed at all levels by some of the most incompetent buffoons" he's ever seen. He's leaving because in his time here he has "only found a handful of people with a brain and who are worth talking to". Hardly anyone he has met "has any concept of the real world", and we are "incredibly immature". NZ business is "pathetic" and "managed by short-sighted, small-minded dolts". He's a rightie in terms of political DNA, not a big fan of the Nats though. Likes Labour's CGT, not Labour itself. He has no particular axe to grind, and actively wanted to come here and build something new and successful. He's tried to launch a number of things that would probably have worked elsewhere. His conclusion: We're too small, and too small-minded - just not up to it. Our loss.

Is it possible he is wrong? That his impressions are personal to him because of his own expectations? I'm sure you could find plenty of criticisms of every country in the world.

The contrast is the people - Americans and Europeans - who move here because they find NZ safe and idyllic.

We're well screwed. Almost undoubtedly National will win the election, much though I would hope this would not be the case, and we will be even less well placed to deal with the real world than we were at the last election. The consequences of this decision will probably cripple the country for decades, but hey, democracy's a bitch, right?

Ya see, this is where we differ. I do not expect the government - any government - to bail this small South Pacific nation out of the turmoil of world economics. Each of us has to do what we can ourselves.

[rainman]

Is it possible he is wrong? That his impressions are personal to him because of his own expectations?

Well, of course his impressions are personal - he has failed to find evidence of extensive intelligent life on Planet Kiwi, despite an active search. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist anywhere of course, just that it's rare. His diagnosis is that we're a naive and unsophisticated lot, and it's hard to disagree.

I use him as but the most stark and recent example - it's a complaint I hear frequently from a range of immigrants, to be honest. And you might know my personal opinion of the maturity of our social and political discourse from my other comments.

Ya see, this is where we differ. I do not expect the government - any government - to bail this small South Pacific nation out of the turmoil of world economics. Each of us has to do what we can ourselves.

I agree entirely with the last sentence. I'm not saying any government will bail us out: I'm suggesting one lot will screw the place up worse than the other, that the consequences will last a long time, and that, in general, we're too dumb to work this out.

[Shadows]

I laughed when labour announced that $15 minimum wage increase. Surely that's a sound economic idea not a voter grab...

I laughed because all of their voters are dole bludgers. Talk about missing your target market.

[Quasievil]

Well, of course his impressions are personal - he has failed to find evidence of extensive intelligent life on Planet Kiwi, despite an active search.

"He" sounds like an arrogant sanctimonious twat and we are better off without him, good riddance.
So where oh where did this "S T" depart to , Australia ?

[rainman]

"He" sounds like an arrogant sanctimonious twat and we are better off without him, good riddance.
So where oh where did this "S T" depart to , Australia ?

And there I was thinking we'd want more wealthy innovators to come live here, silly me. Perhaps we should be courting the "investors with low standards" demographic.

He will be going back to Europe, if it makes any difference. Possibly stopping in SE Asia to start up some businesses on the way.

[Quasievil]

And there I was thinking we'd want more wealthy innovators to come live here, silly me. Perhaps we should be courting the "investors with low standards" demographic.

He will be going back to Europe, if it makes any difference. Possibly stopping in SE Asia to start up some businesses on the way.

Will he have time for lunch in between to? or perhaps a bit of shopping, FFS what a load of crap, is this your imaginary friend?

Yes we do, and he came and by his own decision left, what are you proposing take his money and lock him up?
his choice to come his choice to leave.

Perhaps it was his sanctimonious attitude thats the problem ...............CLEARLY !!

[Quasievil]

Well Shrub, Rainman, Spman

can you please advise me which part of "my argument" is of particular concern?

did I even have one?

Thought as much, your ramblings and abuse towards me are about as pointless as your shallow and failing politics.

[Ocean1]

Well, of course his impressions are personal - he has failed to find evidence of extensive intelligent life on Planet Kiwi, despite an active search.

To be honest, dude, the vast majority of incompetent senior managers I’ve come into contact with have been imports. Useless poms running from a poor performance history, aggressive Aussies encouraged by the lack of militant unions, it’s none of it home made.

We do have our own incompetents and arseholes, but they often get weeded out earlier in their careers, (or fuck off overseas where they're better appreciated). Problem is that Kiwi boards have the same cringe-worthy, shallow rooted and largely incorrect opinion of kiwi managers as you and your mate, so they hire imported fuckwits for preference.

I despair, I really do.

[admenk]

To be honest, dude, the vast majority of incompetent senior managers I’ve come into contact with have been imports. Useless poms running from a poor performance history

Come on, get it right - I'm a useless pom but not a senior manager

[Banditbandit]

I laughed because all of their voters are dole bludgers. Talk about missing your target market.

'scuse Me??? I'm not on the dole .. and the vote Labour received at the last election is way way higher than the number of people on benefits ..

I laughed because this shows that National voters are just plain ignorant and inbred

[Quasievil]

I laughed because this shows that National voters are just plain ignorant and inbred

Yet winning

[Banditbandit]

Yet winning

Politics has nothing to do with sensible answers - only persuading enough of the ignorant and inbred population to vote for you ...

To think otherwise is to be incredibly naive ..

[Quasievil]

Politics has nothing to do with sensible answers - only persuading enough of the ignorant and inbred population to vote for you ...

To think otherwise is to be incredibly naive ..

No, I agree with you, I just dont think people are that ignorant anymore and the inbreds are dying out thats why Labour and the looney left are loosing in the polls