Forum whore
You couldn't buy their technology for that and they do claim from 2x - 4x battery life so at least double your cost for anything else to get a fair comparison.Originally Posted by ukusa
Plus you get far better starting performance and they weigh about 750g as against nearly 4kg for lead-acid. They're environmentally safe to boot.
It's all relative, mate.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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Have just replaced the Yuasa with a Motobatt and will be interested to see what the differences are... apart from the price.
The yuasa has lasted 4+ years but has been giving hints that it is not at all happy. Decided to replace sooner rather than discover an "issue" at the side of the road somewhere.
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[QUOTE=Edbear;1130116886]You couldn't buy their technology for that and they do claim from 2x - 4x battery life so at least double your cost for anything else to get a fair comparison.QUOTE]
there's a Yuasa on trademe for my bike, $199. Cheaper than the US$250 - $280 for the Shorai. Can't see them being twice as good as a Yuasa
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Forum whore
[QUOTE=ukusa;1130116921]Mssed the point a bit. They claim 2 - 4x the life, so outlast any other battery hence the need to at least double the other price as you'll be buying from 2 - 4 other batteries for every one Shorai.
Nothing wrong with Yuasa batteries, but they are not Lithium Iron and don't have the advantages.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
parting of the sensory
I agree about the Chinese ones; ordered a Yuasa, and a Koyo or somesuch was delivered. I replaced it after a while with a Motobat, which has been in the VFR for a couple of years now. The Motobat was both higher CCAs (cold cranking amps) than the standard Yuasa for the VFR and considerably cheapererer.
The only thing I don't like about the Motobat is the multi-purpose screw-on terminals, as they're a bitch to get tight. Though having said that, I'd buy another one.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
Forum whore
Ok Ed, I'm intrigued.
What's your price on an LFX24L3-BS12?
Forum whore
That would retail here for $349.00. As a rule of thumb to get the NZ price for products from the US, double the US price and add GST, which would mean the LFX24L3-BS12 would usually be $575.00. The current exchange rate is well in our favour, though, so I'm making the most of it.
I can offer a KB discount, but bear in mind I carry the costs of servicing the warranty, shipping and insurance etc. If a battery needs replacing under warranty I buy the replacement, and pay shipping, and then return the faulty battery at my cost and when Shorai receive it they check it and refund the purchse price of the battery only. So it's not as simple as people think to import product and stand behind it.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Forum whore
As opposed to it's Yuasa equivalent (YTX20L-BS) for $202.
As for their claim that they last 2-4 times longer......
Anyone can claim anything - it doesn't necessarily make it fact.
Rocket Surgeon
+1 - every one of Ed's posts specifically state's "Claims 2-4 times the life". that extra word wasn't a typo, if you plan to sell something, it does sound better if you stand by it.
The motobatt in the Aprilia goes well, it's not let me down (apart from leaving the headlights on for 8 hours, it still cranked, but not enough to start). Time will tell though as it's only been in for 6 months
The yuasa before it died at a stop mid ride, it had been fine till that point. No idea how old though.
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Forum whore
Try comparing apples with apples. The Yuasa is 18Ahr, sealed lead-acid that weighs over 6kg. The Shorai is 24Ahr, Lithium Iron that weighs 1.8kg. Shorai, (not me), claim from 2 - 4 times the battery life of lead-acid. Shorai batteries are environmentally safe. Why not check their website and have a look for yourself at the technology and facts and then decide whether they are talking through a hole in their hat or may, in fact have a product worth its cost?
They are not much more expensive than other good quality batteries despite the very real advantages and taken into account, the expected battery life, makes them much cheaper by the time you've bought your second battery of any other type.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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The Electric vehicle industry has shown LiFePO4 batteries to have much longer cycle life than lead acid, however it is of course a different application, but lend significant weight to that claim I think. They also have less self discharge, which again, lends weight to the better long term stability claims. The completely different chemistry between the two types actually makes it really easy to go and do a bit of research into the various aspects, and give some good answers.
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Forum whore
Try 80% more Ed.
Forum whore
My previous post is still entirely valid. I've seen other batteries from other manufacturers of similar capacity that retail in the mid - high $200's and as I said, take battery life into account.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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Meh.... I'm not convinced that the advantages of LifePO4 batteries (which really only seem to be weight saving as far as anything tangible is concerned) are worth the extra expense unless you want something small, light & powerful for a race bike etc.
I'm sure the price will come down and the technology will improve further as time goes on, but I for one won't be rushing out to buy one (apologies Ed).
Some interesting reading on the subject here: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...le-battery.htm
FWIW the original Yuasa sealed battery in my Ducati is now over 6 years old and still going strong.
Also, interesting that it's been touted that LifePO4 batteries are environmentally safe, yet as far as I am aware there is no recycling programme for them as there is with lead acid batteries (this is also mentioned in the above linked article) so where does this claim come from?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not writing them off, just think it's perhaps a little early to be ditching the proven and cost effective lead acid battery for something that is bloody expensive and doesn't offer any huge advantage over a properly cared for and maintained quality lead acid battery. (unless of course weight is an issue for you).
I'm sure there's plenty of folks who get all barred up over new technology and can't wait to use it, but I'll sit this one out for the meantime.
That's my 2 cents spent for the evening, as you were....
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I read about the Motobatt units and saw the advert on Trademe.
A little more ivestigation led me to this unit: http://www.motoworks.co.nz/shop/189-...x-battery.html
It's a Gel unit too and certainly has a far higher crank rating than the YUASA unit it has replaced.
I was wanting as much power as I could get however the physical size was the main governing factor.
I liked the 2% per month no use discharge rating. The price was also a big plus.
I've had it in for a few weeks now. If it is still as good as this in 2 years, I'll be very happy
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