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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46 View Post
    For instance, fitting double glazing wont make any meaningful difference if you have fuck all or no wall or roof insulation, but when all your walls, floors and roof are well insulated you will still lose a big chunk of heat through your windows, so double glazing makes a worthwhile difference
    Sounds sensible, anyone else have an opinion?

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    Just had the house done with argon filled low e glass and it's like night and day. Feels like summer is already here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Just had the house done with argon filled low e glass and it's like night and day. Feels like summer is already here.
    How's the noise reduction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    How's the noise reduction?
    It does make a difference in terms of noise. There is little traffic noise where I live but wind noise can sometimes be an issue and this has clearly been reduced.
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    Taking this waaay off in a tangent, I've heard that the drill a hole in your exterior wall & pump in expanding foam crowd have a bit to answer for.
    supposedly:
    1. it is like gorilla glue & future suckers trying to take the gib off will be in for a nasty surprise
    2. it encases wiring in foam so good luck changing any of that & supposedly overseas they are concern on its affect upon wiring.
    3. Most woods when you drill a hole in them keep producing sap so the bung of bog you put in the hole will keep cracking the paint.

    I had wondered about that stick on window stuff someone was offering & how long it would last without discolouring. We had some safety cover put on some glass doors (Toddlers with blocks SMASH SMASH SMASH - Hey Dad, this is FUN) & I was surprised that 3 years on it is still invisible. . .but it isn't in direct sunlight for hours every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    I had wondered about that stick on window stuff someone was offering & how long it would last without discolouring. We had some safety cover put on some glass doors (Toddlers with blocks SMASH SMASH SMASH - Hey Dad, this is FUN) & I was surprised that 3 years on it is still invisible. . .but it isn't in direct sunlight for hours every day.
    My father fitted it and said it made a huge difference in heat retention, but for not much more he could have had the real thing, glazier friend reckoned 5-7 years it will discolour and he'd bash me if I even considered fitting it
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    yeah thanks, I had understood that from your first post & its useful information.


    The stuff on my internal glass doors is for a different purpose (stopping the stuff smashing) & I was expecting it to be manky by now & peel it off once the kids got old enough not to bash the glass. So far its fit for purpose & I might never have to. But again, its internal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Taking this waaay off in a tangent, I've heard that the drill a hole in your exterior wall & pump in expanding foam crowd have a bit to answer for.
    supposedly:
    1. it is like gorilla glue & future suckers trying to take the gib off will be in for a nasty surprise
    2. it encases wiring in foam so good luck changing any of that & supposedly overseas they are concern on its affect upon wiring.
    3. Most woods when you drill a hole in them keep producing sap so the bung of bog you put in the hole will keep cracking the paint.

    I had wondered about that stick on window stuff someone was offering & how long it would last without discolouring. We had some safety cover put on some glass doors (Toddlers with blocks SMASH SMASH SMASH - Hey Dad, this is FUN) & I was surprised that 3 years on it is still invisible. . .but it isn't in direct sunlight for hours every day.
    Is it just me or does anyone else think New Zealand is below par when it comes to building houses? For some reason wrong materials, insufficient materials and poor planning/implementation are the rule rather than the exception. Is everyone so intent on building cheap houses as fast as possible that they can't be bothered to do the job properly?

    And don't get me started on the so called "leaky buildings". If ever there was a misnomer that is it. (Does anyone think that moisture on the inside of windows on a cold morning got there because the windows leaked?) They would more correctly be called rotten wood buildings. The problem is generally not water leaking in from the outside, it is condensation forming in places where it is not wanted. The kind of condensation that will rot untreated timber. Making the house more watertight could actually make that particular problem worse rather than better because the moisture inside the walls, on the wooden frame will have less of a chance of drying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Is it just me or does anyone else think New Zealand is below par when it comes to building houses? For some reason wrong materials, insufficient materials and poor planning/implementation are the rule rather than the exception. Is everyone so intent on building cheap houses as fast as possible that they can't be bothered to do the job properly?

    And don't get me started on the so called "leaky buildings". If ever there was a misnomer that is it. (Does anyone think that moisture on the inside of windows on a cold morning got there because the windows leaked?) They would more correctly be called rotten wood buildings. The problem is generally not water leaking in from the outside, it is condensation forming in places where it is not wanted. The kind of condensation that will rot untreated timber. Making the house more watertight could actually make that particular problem worse rather than better because the moisture inside the walls, on the wooden frame will have less of a chance of drying.
    with you 100%.
    The margins seem to be so low that the jobs get rushed through at the moment here in NZ. I am getting a 1860sqm building built at present and it all seems to be about getting a signiture on an agreement and a deposit. Once thats done the whole thing starts to drag out forever and its not about quality. The builder employs subbies and then when things go wrong the finger pointing starts. Do it once, do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabiker View Post

    The Glass-argon gas- glass double glazing requires re-gassing every so often, so there is an on-going upkeep cost.
    What a load of shit.... Argon Filled IGU's are made in an Argon controlled room. If Argon has escaped the whole unit would need to be replaced. Modern technology allowes the Argon gas to be sealed in the unit for good. So they can not be regassed.
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    couldnt be bothered reading the lot, but if you use anything other than a proper sealed unit you will still get condensation appearing & mold growing ..... A sealed unit doesnt.
    Dont use a perspex type plasitic as it breaks down & becomes discoloured & brittle. Polycarbonate is the bizzo if you use a plastic but its hellishly expensive, more so than a new sealed unit.
    Wooden frames can have the rebate routed to accept a modern sealed unit. Normally an aluminium framed window can have the existing beading cut down or a new one can be obtained if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    couldnt be bothered reading the lot, but if you use anything other than a proper sealed unit you will still get condensation appearing & mold growing ..... A sealed unit doesnt.
    Dont use a perspex type plasitic as it breaks down & becomes discoloured & brittle. Polycarbonate is the bizzo if you use a plastic but its hellishly expensive, more so than a new sealed unit.
    Wooden frames can have the rebate routed to accept a modern sealed unit. Normally an aluminium framed window can have the existing beading cut down or a new one can be obtained if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    .... Is everyone so intent on building cheap houses as fast as possible that they can't be bothered to do the job properly?
    So far as I can determine, new houses in NZ are built neither cheaply nor quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
    So far as I can determine, new houses in NZ are built neither cheaply nor quickly.
    Sounds good, and sounds like a big improvement. Just hope they are built to be comfortable and long lasting. That would be a big step up from the moldy, freezing, drafty and poorly built housing most people have to put up with.

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