Bad boys

[scissorhands]

from http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...girls-bad-boys

From a nice girl, aged 37
Dear Carole, Why do girls – even nice girls – fall for bad boys, even when the girls in question are 37 and should know much better? My friends and I don't understand ourselves.



Carole replies:
The "dark triad" of human behaviour consists of narcissism (or self-obsession), psychopathy (including callous, impulsive, thrill-seeking, risk-taking behaviour) and Machiavellianism (exploitative, manipulative and deceitful behaviour). Bad boys exhibit dark triad traits and their behaviour, according to one theory, is genetic, meaning they are unlikely to change their ways.

These types of males tend to favour short-term relationships (including one night stands) over long-term relationships. They also attempt to compete with other males by poaching mates for brief affairs.

Research has shown that a touch of evil can bring fitness benefits: these males tend to have more female partners and thus more reproductive opportunities than other males. The fictional character of James Bond is frequently cited as possessing dark triad traits.

Although the dark triad personality type appears to be universal in human society, having been identified in 57 countries, it does exact real costs – otherwise bad boys would be more common. Those exhibiting dark triad behaviour need to prey on the cooperative and unsuspecting.

If bad boys stay in one place and among the same group of humans for too long their psychopathy will be exposed. It has been predicted that this evolutionary strategy can only succeed if bad boys manage to achieve anonymity or lead an itinerant lifestyle.

Evolutionary-anthropological research on hunter gatherers, such as the !Kung San of the Kalahari, has shown that successful, risk-taking hunters – who "bring home the bacon" for the group – get the most mating opportunities.

As a single trait, successful risk-taking is universally appreciated as a sign of good genes. The combination of brave, risk-taking behaviour is frequently attractive to females in the short-term. But in the long term, although females remain attracted to bravery and risk-taking they also look for the crucial additional trait of altruism.

Thus, if given a choice, a female will apparently favour a brave altruist over an opportunistic risk-taker.

Ironically, "nice girls" may be the only females who tolerate the dark triad male personality, forgiving these naughty boys and inadvertently giving them yet another chance to misbehave.

Are you prepared to be a single mother? A bad boy son who survives all the risk-taking behaviour to reach reproductive age may make you a granny many times over, but are you really looking for quantity over quality?

You need to ask yourself this: "Do I want to be another notch on this man's bedpost, or would it be wiser to hold out for a brave altruist?"

1. Paulhus, DL, Williams, K (2002) The dark triad of personality: narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. Journal of Research in Personality; 36: 556-568.
2. Jonason, PK et al (2009) The dark triad – facilitating a short term mating strategy in men. European Journal of Personality; 23: 5-18.
3. Dunbar, RIM, Kelly, S (2001) Who dares wins, heroism versus altruism in women's mate choice. Human Nature; 12: 89-105.
4. Smith, EA (2004) Why do good hunters have higher reproductive success? Human Nature; 15 (4): 343-364.

[Big Dave]

Anybody who is self-obsessed needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

[White trash]

I just reach back like a pimp an' I slap the ho'.

[Big Dave]

I just reach back like a pimp an' I slap the ho'.

The he reaches for the rake and the blower vac.

[White trash]

The he reaches for the rake and the blower vac.

We don't got no blower vacs around here in redneckville. I just hoover up them pesky leaves with Sue's Electrolux.

[Banditbandit]

from http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...girls-bad-boys

From a nice girl, aged 37
Dear Carole, Why do girls – even nice girls – fall for bad boys, even when the girls in question are 37 and should know much better? My friends and I don't understand ourselves.



Carole replies:
The "dark triad" of human behaviour consists of narcissism (or self-obsession), psychopathy (including callous, impulsive, thrill-seeking, risk-taking behaviour) and Machiavellianism (exploitative, manipulative and deceitful behaviour). Bad boys exhibit dark triad traits and their behaviour, according to one theory, is genetic, meaning they are unlikely to change their ways.

These types of males tend to favour short-term relationships (including one night stands) over long-term relationships. They also attempt to compete with other males by poaching mates for brief affairs.

Research has shown that a touch of evil can bring fitness benefits: these males tend to have more female partners and thus more reproductive opportunities than other males. The fictional character of James Bond is frequently cited as possessing dark triad traits.

Although the dark triad personality type appears to be universal in human society, having been identified in 57 countries, it does exact real costs – otherwise bad boys would be more common. Those exhibiting dark triad behaviour need to prey on the cooperative and unsuspecting.

If bad boys stay in one place and among the same group of humans for too long their psychopathy will be exposed. It has been predicted that this evolutionary strategy can only succeed if bad boys manage to achieve anonymity or lead an itinerant lifestyle.

Evolutionary-anthropological research on hunter gatherers, such as the !Kung San of the Kalahari, has shown that successful, risk-taking hunters – who "bring home the bacon" for the group – get the most mating opportunities.

As a single trait, successful risk-taking is universally appreciated as a sign of good genes. The combination of brave, risk-taking behaviour is frequently attractive to females in the short-term. But in the long term, although females remain attracted to bravery and risk-taking they also look for the crucial additional trait of altruism.

Thus, if given a choice, a female will apparently favour a brave altruist over an opportunistic risk-taker.

Ironically, "nice girls" may be the only females who tolerate the dark triad male personality, forgiving these naughty boys and inadvertently giving them yet another chance to misbehave.

Are you prepared to be a single mother? A bad boy son who survives all the risk-taking behaviour to reach reproductive age may make you a granny many times over, but are you really looking for quantity over quality?

You need to ask yourself this: "Do I want to be another notch on this man's bedpost, or would it be wiser to hold out for a brave altruist?"

1. Paulhus, DL, Williams, K (2002) The dark triad of personality: narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. Journal of Research in Personality; 36: 556-568.
2. Jonason, PK et al (2009) The dark triad – facilitating a short term mating strategy in men. European Journal of Personality; 23: 5-18.
3. Dunbar, RIM, Kelly, S (2001) Who dares wins, heroism versus altruism in women's mate choice. Human Nature; 12: 89-105.
4. Smith, EA (2004) Why do good hunters have higher reproductive success? Human Nature; 15 (4): 343-364.

Yeah And? Answer quick before I get on my bike and I'm outta here ..

[Stirts]

Yeah And?

Mr Scissorhands has found an article about why he isn't getting any?

And ..... all the "nice girls" are fucked in the head and don't know what they want, what they really really want.

[Banditbandit]

And so..... all the "nice girls" are fucked in the head and don't know what they want, what they really really want.

Girls just wanna have fun ... Cyndi Lauper said it so it must be true ..

[fuknKIWI]

Mr Scissorhands has found an article about why he isn't getting any?

That's funny

[Gremlin]

And ..... all the "nice girls" are fucked in the head and don't know what they want, what they really really want.

Wait... so the bad girls do know what they want?

I'm not following...

[Stirts]

Wait... so the bad girls do know what they want?

I'm not following...

If we are going to stick to the idiotic non-existent categories then, yes ......
Look at the history of the “bad girl” it is a term applied to any women who has ever taken control of her own life. Cleopatra, for example

From a male point-of-view, bad girls are for rooting. Good girls are for marrying, loving and protecting.

And from a female point-of-view, bad girls like sex, know what they want and how to get it.

Good girls get married and have kids. Bad girls go to bed on the first date; good girls don't.

[short-circuit]

If we are going to stick to the idiotic non-existent categories then, yes ......
Look at the history of the “bad girl” it is a term applied to any women who has ever taken control of her own life. Cleopatra, for example

From a male point-of-view, bad girls are for rooting. Good girls are for marrying, loving and protecting.

And from a female point-of-view, bad girls like sex, know what they want and how to get it.

Good girls get married and have kids. Bad girls go to bed on the first date; good girls don't.

[Spearfish]

If we are going to stick to the idiotic non-existent categories then, yes ......
Look at the history of the “bad girl” it is a term applied to any women who has ever taken control of her own life. Cleopatra, for example

From a male point-of-view, bad girls are for rooting. Good girls are for marrying, loving and protecting.

And from a female point-of-view, bad girls like sex, know what they want and how to get it.

Good girls get married and have kids. Bad girls go to bed on the first date; good girls don't.

So where do you place yourself of the two choices?
I would imagine, considering your also boxed in as a biker........








.......you would take the best of both worlds?.

[blue rider]

good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere

[ellipsis]

...i've found that, often times, the bad girls is good and the good girls is as bad as yer can get...do you have to be a member of a triad to give away such information?...