Dumb drivers who don't know the road rules

[Devil]

I had heard (second hand, opps my mistake) that a new roundabout rule had been brought in (as above). Was it just a proposed change which got blown out of all proportions in the Intranet winds ?

The rules never changed. They just started educating and enforcing them.

If you were wrong before, you're wrong now.

[Oblivion]

Since this thread got bought onto the topic of roundabouts, I should Photograph the one outside out house and see if you guys can pick holes in it.

[sinfull]

The rules never changed. They just started educating and enforcing them.

If you were wrong before, you're wrong now.

Well i never changed neither lol

But why if they're educating ppl have all these idiots started indicating right if they're going straight ahead ?

[pzkpfw]

Well i never changed neither lol

But why if they're educating ppl have all these idiots started indicating right if they're going straight ahead ?

The people doing the educating forget how stupid people are.

(They should have used Big Ted, Little Ted and Jemima in the ads).

[Berries]

Ya seem to be good at digging shit up Berries, so where did this confusion stem from ?
I had heard (second hand, opps my mistake) that a new roundabout rule had been brought in (as above). Was it just a proposed change which got blown out of all proportions in the Intranet winds ?

I worked for the LTSA about ten years ago when they suddenly started promoting what to do at roundabouts. My brain is addled but I am sure there was no change to anything, just more, and larger, roundabouts being built. I had to explain to people that nothing was changing, this is the way it always was.

It is a problem with people passing a test 20 or 30 years ago and then new things appearing, like roundabouts and flush medians. New riders/drivers may know what to do, but older ones don't have a clue. Signaling right when going straight at a roundabout isn't much of a safety issue, I never believe any signals just in case, but it just amuses me that people happily drive around when they clearly don't know the rules. In fact it is not like they don't know them, they are actively following a rule that does not exist. I mean, where is the right turn that they are signaling? Don't they actually think?

Personally I just follow my old mans second piece of advice - don't indicate, it only confuses the bastards.

[sinfull]

It is a problem with people passing a test 20 or 30 years ago and then new things appearing, like roundabouts and flush medians. .Doh ? Probably rode over one once

That's where i fit in lol like 36 yr ago, my licence reads like (as Pzkpfw said, where most ppl would need Jemimas help reading most of the letters and numerals) Alphabet soup and have (thankfully) never had to take refresher on them !
So being realistic here, (if ya drop the first word), you could try to fit me into the catagory of the OPs heading to this thread, but i'll argue all the way to the LTSA site lol !
I think i'd be classed as an impatient person and idiots on the road frustrate me, but if there is one thing driving rigs has taught me over the years, is patients behind the wheel, it's only a matter of minutes that are saved by being impatient !
Some might say (and i'll get burnt for this) that i don't ride like a patient person, but i don't commute on my bikes, i ride for pleasure and i get a rush out of it (better than any drug i've tried, could be the ADHD) so i aint gonna sit there and try to educate ppl on the R/H rule or stop at the end of a merging lane like some do, if there's a gap, i own it !

Personally I just follow my old mans second piece of advice - don't indicate, it only confuses the bastards.

Second Piece ?
But yes you and me both ! Well yeah ok, so i do indicate now and then, but as someone said here, on a need to know basis !
One of the reasons i refused to teach my kids to drive and paid the coin for lessons, is i have far too many (what some would call) bad habits ! But once they pass i'll take em out to a dirt road or a paddock firstly, to pass on a few of the old mans skills (and bad habits) then show them how to drive quick on the roads, not fast as most immature folk would define the word quick as, but they need to learn to out think the majority or they'll either get nailed, or hold others up and wonder why everyone's flicking them the bird lol !

[oneofsix]

But yes you and me both ! Well yeah ok, so i do indicate now and then, but as someone said here, on a need to know basis !

Now that's what I call DUMB. How do you know what the other road user needs to know? Are you relying on them indicating their intentions so you can decided if you need to warn them what you are about to do? Indicate early then the other road user has been warned something is about to happen. If they can't work it out then they have no excuses.

[sinfull]

Now that's what I call DUMB. How do you know what the other road user needs to know? Are you relying on them indicating their intentions so you can decided if you need to warn them what you are about to do? Indicate early then the other road user has been warned something is about to happen. If they can't work it out then they have no excuses.

You and Kate stop at the end of merging lanes don't you ?
NEED TO KNOW ?
Thats right, if they aint obviously going where i am, IE: following me close enough to be an issue, or coming toward me when i'm turning right, or slowing down along the centreline of the road i'm planning to turn left off of, or at a roundabout i'm not going straight ahead on, i won't be arsed letting them know what i'm up to, if they are i'll know and indicate ! I sometimes even point straight ahead at roundabouts lol curtious aye ?

And no ! I never rely on other motorists to indicate their intentions, my spidey sense usually works better !

No excuses for what ? mowing you down, Pffft You can have that shit, i'm usually gone before they get to "wonder" in "i wonder where the indicators on that bike are"

And Yes if some numb nutts sits there double guessing when he/she has right of way and i'm obviously giving him said right of way, i won't sit there and educate him, i'll go right ahead and break the fucking law he don't even know !

[Scuba_Steve]

I always indicate correct indication left for left, right for right nothing for straight I do this all the time, even do this in the likes of car-parks even if no cars are near, because as someone who occasionally also uses my god given feet it is annoying as hell when vehicles don't show there intentions.

[MSTRS:Me]

...Don't they actually think?

Redundant question.,..

Indicate early then the other road user has been warned something is about to happen. If they can't work it out then they have no excuses.

Try indicating early on approach to a roundabout...of course you are going to take one of the exit lanes from said roundabout at some stage. But which one?

I can't for the life of me work out why anyone has such trouble with indicating at roundabouts. It isn't rocket science.
Left indicator on, says you are leaving at the next exit. Right indicator on says you are going round to at least the third exit.

[Scuba_Steve]

I can't for the life of me work out why anyone has such trouble with indicating at roundabouts. It isn't rocket science.
Left indicator on, says you are leaving at the next exit. Right indicator on says you are going round to at least the third exit.

because to indicate left out of a roundabout I have to literally damage my indicator to do so on the smaller roundabouts (in my cages), I don't have an issue on roundabout of size just the smaller ones.