Stupid World

**BoristheBiter** · 17th February 2014, 14:59

Originally Posted by husaberg

Yes An undeniable truth lifestyle has changed, but wages have not keep up with cost of living and the distribution of wealth is being redistributed upwards at an alarming rate.

See i disagree, the cost of living has gone up because we expect to have more.

My folks, new house, 3 bedroom house, no drive,lawns, gardens, carpet, curtains, dishwasher etc.
Now it has to be 4-5 room, 2 living rooms, all finished.

FYI looking back at what I was paid as a first year tradesman to now, well above inflation.

Most people live well above their means.

**Banditbandit** · 17th February 2014, 15:03

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Most people live well above their means.

Fuck yeah - without consume now pay later the economy would collapse ..

**mashman** · 17th February 2014, 15:16

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Many things have become affordable due to technology ( manufacturing ) and the opening up of cheaper labour

still , on another note

I wonder why the Jermans want their gold back

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertle...ck-in-germany/

is it because countries are moving away from the dollar ?

this will be interesting !

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...f-economy-2016

for some reason the imf web site will not open

Stephen

I'm sure Germany were told recently that they couldn't have all of their gold back.

imf opened for me. China, US, UK, Swaziland, Chatham Islands........ does it really matter?

**husaberg** · 17th February 2014, 17:02

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

See i disagree, the cost of living has gone up because we expect to have more.

My folks, new house, 3 bedroom house, no drive,lawns, gardens, carpet, curtains, dishwasher etc.
Now it has to be 4-5 room, 2 living rooms, all finished.

FYI looking back at what I was paid as a first year tradesman to now, well above inflation.

Most people live well above their means.

No you haven't disagreed with what i have said? see the first part of what i have said, Yes a lot of people have a want it now fixation, that's undeniable, plus advertising is very intoxicating, expectations are higher as well but as i have said basic costs of living have crept up higher than the wages have it's a a double whammy.

**Scuba_Steve** · 17th February 2014, 18:00

Well this shouldn't surprise anyone

**blue rider** · 17th February 2014, 21:20

completely not related to anything, but contains nice pictures.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...ng-in-February

interesting read...blahblahblah...

**avgas** · 18th February 2014, 03:39

Originally Posted by husaberg

whoops i cocked up, my returns for beef included GST wipe so 15% off then remove the tax.killing and inspection fees.
400- gst=$373.33=$2.48KG ouch and i can run 5/ha and the land is worth $25000/ha and my costs are 1/3 of income.
Time to buy a supermarket lol
They also don't pay me for all the rest of the offal organs etc that they sell.

That's not too bad. Don't look at the Green KiwiFruit then. Costs are about 2/3 that and the income is the same or less.

Out of interest - can you get arrested for selling meat independently?

**BoristheBiter** · 18th February 2014, 06:46

Originally Posted by husaberg

No you haven't disagreed with what i have said? see the first part of what i have said, Yes a lot of people have a want it now fixation, that's undeniable, plus advertising is very intoxicating, expectations are higher as well but as i have said basic costs of living have crept up higher than the wages have it's a a double whammy.

no I do disagree as we sell on a global market that works on a global price.
Unfortunately there is not a lot to do about apart from making sure your income is higher than outgoings.

FYI yes you can be an interdependent butcher but you will need the correct licence to sell meat.
And what type of cow did you use in your figures? as a whole cow (2-3 year old) is going for about $400-$600.

**husaberg** · 18th February 2014, 09:11

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

no I do disagree as we sell on a global market that works on a global price.
Unfortunately there is not a lot to do about apart from making sure your income is higher than outgoings.

FYI yes you can be an interdependent butcher but you will need the correct licence to sell meat.
And what type of cow did you use in your figures? as a whole cow (2-3 year old) is going for about $400-$600.

ahhhhhhhh.......Not everyone is a dairy cocky.........Boris
Cows are only for sausages and mince.

.A few people have been selling stuff off the paddock, for home kill.... is it dodgy........ I don't know.... but it is cunning.
I am only on a lifestyle block now so it’s just for pocket money.........So its far more convenient to send stuff to the works.
Apathy wins again.......
......

**BoristheBiter** · 18th February 2014, 13:52

Originally Posted by husaberg

ahhhhhhhh.......Not everyone is a dairy cocky.........Boris
Cows are only for sausages and mince.

.A few people have been selling stuff off the paddock, for home kill.... is it dodgy........ I don't know.... but it is cunning.
I am only on a lifestyle block now so it’s just for pocket money.........So its far more convenient to send stuff to the works.
Apathy wins again.......
......

Neither am I, just live in the area where people are.

So then what you do is just buy a calf, or 2 depending how big your place is/ how much meat you go through. every year get home kill in, find a good one that does everything, normal cost is $1-$5 per kg dressed weight.

If you have to much sell to your friends. If questioned they have brought the cow not the meat, this is the loop hole.

If worked right not only will you never have to pay for meat again but you will make a bit of money doing it.

**blue rider** · 18th February 2014, 17:09

also this shit....
https://aaas.confex.com/aaas/2014/we...ssion7092.html

**jonbuoy** · 18th February 2014, 21:26

Originally Posted by blue rider

also this shit....
https://aaas.confex.com/aaas/2014/we...ssion7092.html

Too many people..... If you want to be truly green and "save the planet" don´t bother driving an electric car, recycling your jam jars or walking to the shops - just stop breeding!