Stupid World

**scrivy** · 4th July 2014, 11:28

Errr...... so it's going to be harder to fly from Europe to the US now because of the ISIS bullshit and terrorists returning with valid passport/visas etc...... they're gunna blow shit up apparantely......

I know, why not just fly into Mexico..... the US lets them fuckers in for nothing, with no background checks...... that'll solve the terrorists dilemma......

"If in doubt - always use the backdoor......." - to use a quote from Gordie...

**Brian d marge** · 4th July 2014, 14:32

Tin hats everyone ...Tin Hats ...got this from the internet so its true ......

http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/sup...e-cthulhu.html

Stephen

**Akzle** · 4th July 2014, 15:10

Originally Posted by mashman

You could make a damned fine movie out of that... or perhaps we should wait for the real thing

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ive got a handycam....

**Brian d marge** · 5th July 2014, 01:41

Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

I might start taking them as payment

Stephen

**Ocean1** · 5th July 2014, 10:15

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.

**mashman** · 5th July 2014, 12:43

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Tally sticks allowed England to be an empire ....they work , did woork for 700 years

Stephen

They worked until they couldn't any more. Sound familiar? All monetary systems fail. It is only ever a matter of time. And given the added bonus side effect of having an infrastructure built to budget, I'd say we've been seriously short changing ourselves

**mashman** · 5th July 2014, 12:45

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.

Another currency. We're saved.

**Brian d marge** · 5th July 2014, 13:58

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Excellent idea. Only, we could make them out of plastic, and make a wee magnetic strip on them to keep tally.

The English only used tally sticks because the romans had gone, leaving them with insufficient coinage to pay tax. They serve the same function as cash, to record debt. And in fact a credit card serves it even more exactly in recording both creditor and debtor identities.

it would have to be interest free kinda like a bank debt card and ya couldnt make em out of plastic as the security wouldnt be strong enough

tally sticks ( were split and wood splits differently each time !

Stephen

700 year they worked for ,,,then were the cause of westminster burning down ...idiots ,,,,

**Ocean1** · 5th July 2014, 14:24

Originally Posted by mashman

Another currency. We're saved.

Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks,

The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.

Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

**mashman** · 5th July 2014, 16:10

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks,

The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.

Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

lol... a bank is a bank is a bank.

**Brian d marge** · 5th July 2014, 16:19

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Nah, about as different as changing your ASB card to an ANZ card.

However, it did prompt me to have a wee look for the first recorded use of tally sticks. Definitely prehistoric.

And Steven's mate Henry the 1st implemented them to keep track of taxes, soon becoming general currency.

Aaaannnd in the late 1600's the first shares in the Bank of England were purchased with tally sticks,

The bank immediately began lending out several times more money than it had received: Fractional reserve banking. In the 17th century. Three and a half centuries before Bretton Woods.

Don't tell Steven, he'd be devastated.

its how they got rid of them that made me laugh in fact Turner painted a picture of the event

Remember only burn money with the supervision of an adult

Can u explain how a non debt based currency can be debased by making more of it.

not taking the piss here ,,,serious question ,,,if the tally stick is a record of a transaction then having more just makes people wealthy and as there is no inflation or interest the value will remain

least thats how I see it

Stephen

**Ocean1** · 5th July 2014, 18:47

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Can u explain how a non debt based currency can be debased by making more of it.

not taking the piss here ,,,serious question ,,,if the tally stick is a record of a transaction then having more just makes people wealthy and as there is no inflation or interest the value will remain

least thats how I see it

Stephen

Don't think there's any such thing as a non debt/credit based currency. It's their primary function, to represent assets, borrowed or loaned. A tally stick is no different to a coin in that regard.

And I read fookin ages ago that it was fairly common for monarchs to sell tally sticks at a discount to fund pet projects, usually to do with neighbourhood disputes.

Which can only have caused inflation, because it sure as fuck didn't make anyone wealthy all of a sudden. So no, tally sticks are no less prone to inflation than any other currency.