Stupid World

**SPman** · 16th July 2014, 12:53

Last year, the Ministry for the Environment reported that 61% of New Zealand's rivers were unsafe for swimming. National's response? Shut down the monitoring program:

This isn't the first time they've done this. They didn't want to hear about the social consequences of their government, so they shitcanned the Social Report. And they dumped comprehensive environmental reporting before reviving it in a crippled form, in order to censor bad news about the environment. Like a bad boss, their response to bad news is "I don't want to know", rather than "lets fix this".

The government that's more popular than god (if certain people are to be believed). Says something about the believers........?

**puddytat** · 16th July 2014, 19:37

Originally Posted by SPman

Says something about the believers........?

Sure does....

If its not about them, then they're not interested.

**puddytat** · 16th July 2014, 19:49

Corporate Cunts.....

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ide-moratorium

**Ocean1** · 16th July 2014, 20:52

Originally Posted by SPman

They didn't want to hear about the social consequences of their government, so they shitcanned the Social Report. And they dumped comprehensive environmental reporting before reviving it in a crippled form, in order to censor bad news about the environment. Like a bad boss, their response to bad news is "I don't want to know", rather than "lets fix this".

The government that's more popular than god (if certain people are to be believed). Says something about the believers........?

Believers in what? Most intelligent people probably know better than to believe anything from blogs called "no right turn".

Or in fact to even bother reading them. Maybe they're more like a good manager that gets handed a report full of bullshit and files it appropriately. In which case they're probably more likely to believe something from a somewhat less hysterical and demonstrably biased source: http://www.socialprogressimperative....dim1,dim2,dim3

Perhaps you should look at changing your source of beliefs for some sources of knowledge.

**Brian d marge** · 16th July 2014, 20:53

Pot kettle

**Ocean1** · 16th July 2014, 21:11

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Pot kettle

Talk sense man. Social progress is about as left-leaning as they come, if they're suggesting NZ is THE top performer in terms of:

Nourishment
Depth of food deficit
Maternal mortality rate
Stillbirth rate
Child mortality rate
Deaths from infectious diseases
Water and Sanitation
Access to piped water
Rural vs urban access to improved water source
Access to improved sanitation facilities
Shelter
Availability of affordable housing
Access to electricity
Quality of electricity supply
Indoor air pollution attributable deaths
Personal Safety
Homicide rate
Level of violent crime
Perceived criminality
Political terror
Traffic deaths
Foundations of Wellbeing
Access to Basic Knowledge
Adult literacy rate
Primary school enrollment
Lower secondary school enrollment
Upper secondary school enrollment
Gender parity in secondary enrollment
Access to Information and Communications
Mobile telephone subscriptions
Internet users
Press Freedom Index
Health and Wellness
Life expectancy
Non-communicable disease deaths between the ages of 30 and 70
Obesity rate
Outdoor air pollution attributable deaths
Suicide rate
Ecosystem Sustainability
Greenhouse gas emissions
Water withdrawals as a percent of resources
Biodiversity and habitat
Opportunity
Personal Rights
Political rights
Freedom of speech
Freedom of assembly/association
Freedom of movement
Private property rights
Personal Freedom and Choice
Freedom over life choices
Freedom of religion
Modern slavery, human trafficking and child marriage
Satisfied demand for contraception
Corruption
Tolerance and Inclusion
Women treated with respect
Tolerance for immigrants
Tolerance for homosexuals
Discrimination and violence against minorities
Religious tolerance
Community safety net........

Then you have to be an idiot to suggest I'm cherry picking biased data, it's effectively socialisms' gold seal of approval.

**blue rider** · 17th July 2014, 19:29

interesting interview

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan...ef=mostpopular

**blue rider** · 17th July 2014, 21:41

“Sovereign is he who decides on the exception.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/...and-civil-war/

**Banditbandit** · 18th July 2014, 13:20

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Talk sense man. Social progress is about as left-leaning as they come, if they're suggesting NZ is THE top performer in terms of:

Nourishment
Depth of food deficit
Maternal mortality rate
Stillbirth rate
Child mortality rate
Deaths from infectious diseases
Water and Sanitation
Access to piped water
Rural vs urban access to improved water source
Access to improved sanitation facilities
Shelter
Availability of affordable housing
Access to electricity
Quality of electricity supply
Indoor air pollution attributable deaths
Personal Safety
Homicide rate
Level of violent crime
Perceived criminality
Political terror
Traffic deaths
Foundations of Wellbeing
Access to Basic Knowledge
Adult literacy rate
Primary school enrollment
Lower secondary school enrollment
Upper secondary school enrollment
Gender parity in secondary enrollment
Access to Information and Communications
Mobile telephone subscriptions
Internet users
Press Freedom Index
Health and Wellness
Life expectancy
Non-communicable disease deaths between the ages of 30 and 70
Obesity rate
Outdoor air pollution attributable deaths
Suicide rate
Ecosystem Sustainability
Greenhouse gas emissions
Water withdrawals as a percent of resources
Biodiversity and habitat
Opportunity
Personal Rights
Political rights
Freedom of speech
Freedom of assembly/association
Freedom of movement
Private property rights
Personal Freedom and Choice
Freedom over life choices
Freedom of religion
Modern slavery, human trafficking and child marriage
Satisfied demand for contraception
Corruption
Tolerance and Inclusion
Women treated with respect
Tolerance for immigrants
Tolerance for homosexuals
Discrimination and violence against minorities
Religious tolerance
Community safety net........

Then you have to be an idiot to suggest I'm cherry picking biased data, it's effectively socialisms' gold seal of approval.

Yeah .. I know ... It's obvious the only thing the right cares about is money isn't it ...

**Ocean1** · 18th July 2014, 14:46

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Yeah .. I know ... It's obvious the only thing the right cares about is money isn't it ...

And the left has no interest in money, eh?

Well, only other people's.

I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

Now go away and check the status of the various nations on that wee list.

And come back and tell me how many of the best performing ones aren't capitalist societies.

**oldrider** · 18th July 2014, 15:22

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And the left has no interest in money, eh?

Well, only other people's.

I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

Now go away and check the status of the various nations on that wee list.

And come back and tell me how many of the best performing ones aren't capitalist societies.

They all spend other people's money ... the difference is "what and who" they spend it on!

Either way it's never very satisfactory ... the left leans to the right to gain traction and the right leans to the left to gain votes!

It's the way of this crazy socialist country!

**Brian d marge** · 18th July 2014, 15:54

Originally Posted by Ocean1

I don't consider myself of the right, particularly. Just a little sick of the far left banging on blindly about how terrible the world is, how greedy the right is, how needy the poor are and demanding that someone else do something about it.

.

Thats a valid opinion .... where is your nnews coming from???

Stephen

**blue rider** · 20th July 2014, 21:55

what goes around comes around
eventually

http://www.fukushima-disaster.de/fil...nscear2014.pdf

**mashman** · 22nd July 2014, 08:57

Iraq whitewash? Swathes of UK public inquiry findings suppressed... well if they tell the people they know what'll happen so it's hardly surprising they're going to continue to lie and cheat their way into the conscious of the public... and best yet, they know the public will swallow it or plug their ears with their fingers and start yelling out la la la la la la la I can't hear you la la la la la. Useless fuckers.