Stupid World

[Brian d marge]

Just been reading Dmitry Orlovs "The Five Stages Of Collapse". Interesting stuff.



The thing is, ALL civilisations/societies collapse at some point - it's just a matter of when.

The USSR collapse of 1991 got as far as stage 3 before it was pulled back, due to the structure of Russian society more than anything else - when the US goes, it'll probably go all the way (as they tend to do anyway....)


The "Limits to growth" study in 1972, often derided and marginalised, but frequently updated and checked against "progress", still suggests we are on track for societal collapse by mid 21st century. Combined with some predictions of runaway global warming of up to 4C by 2050,
4 degrees warming isn’t an option for us either biologically or in terms of having a civilisation. That level of warming is widely seen within the scientific community as being incompatible with any kind of organised global community. So we have to avoid it. No ‘ifs’ and no ‘buts’.
It could well be an interesting next 30 yrs! What a bugger I won't be around to see it.......

Noo i had my heart set on a new tv by xmas

[Brian d marge]

A couple of years ago Russia said this ......

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6057.htm

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

and a few min ago ISIS said this ....

http://www.memrijttm.org/responding-...-possible.html

had some nice things to say about Obama

Snip

Obama, "The Mule Of The Jews", Thinks America's Arm Is Long, But He Should Know That "Our Blade Is Hard And Sharp, And Will Chop Off Hands And Heads"
Addressing Obama, Al-'Adnani says: "O Obama, O mule of the Jews, you are despicable, despicable, despicable. Is this all you have managed to arrange as a war against us? Has America reached such a degree of weakness and helplessness? Is America and all its allies, from the Crusaders to the infidels, unable to wage a ground campaign? Have you not understood, O Crusaders, that a war [fought] by means of agents will not avail you, and will not avail him [Obama]? Have you not understood, O mule of the Jews, that the campaign will never be decided from the air alone? Do you think you are cleverer than the imbecilic [George] Bush, who came [to Iraq] with Crusader armies and took them right into the lion's den [by confronting] the mujahideen on the ground? No, you are [even] stupider than he was." He continues: "You said, O mule of the Jews, that America will not be dragged into a ground war, but it will [indeed] sink into a ground [war] and will be dragged to its death, to its grave and to its destruction. O, Obama, you said that the long arm of America will reach any [target] it wished. But know that our blade is hard and sharp, and will chop off hands and heads, and the eye of your Lord is ever watchful."


Then some things to Europe , luckily NZ isnt worth worrying about !


Addressing the American and European people, Al-'Adnani adds: "The IS did not launch a war against you, as your lying governments and your media claim. You are the ones who initiated hostilities against us, and the [side] that initiates hostilities is the evil one. You will pay [for it] dearly when your economies collapse. You will pay dearly when your sons are sent to fight us and return crippled and damaged, in coffins or as lunatics. You will pay when each of you feels afraid to travel abroad. You will pay when you walk the streets in trepidation, for fear of the Muslims. You will not be safe in your own beds. You will pay the price when your Crusader war fails, and then we invade the very heart of your countries. After that you will never again be aggressive towards anyone..." Turning to the Muslims, he warns them about the hypocrisy of the Americans and their allies, saying that the Americans are not coming to protect the innocent, as they claim, but only to protect their interest in Erbil and Iraq.

"If You Are Able To Kill An American Or European Infidel... Then Put Your Trust In Allah And Kill Him"


what a nice man , a very very nice man



Stephen

[mashman]

and a few min ago ISIS said this ....

http://www.memrijttm.org/responding-...-possible.html

Stephen

I wonder if they have a safe word? I mean, sometimes you can't tell a muslim from a christian when they're walking down the street, so there must be a safe word, there must be.

[mashman]

Money leading the charge yet again: Huge fishing fraud suspected

[mashman]

"Your future will be my past" - Second World War veteran, 91-year-old Harry Smith upstages Ed Miliband at the Labour Party Conference with a speech that reduces politicians to tears.

[oldrider]

Money leading the charge yet again: Huge fishing fraud suspected

True! Always money at the root of every problem but average political pundits will never face up to it's reality!

Resounding win by National completely overshadowed by constant publicity for Labour over it's leadership failure and failure at the polls!

Every newspaper you pick up is full of it, TV news is full of it, there is no doubt about where the media is centred politically in New Zealand!

[oldrider]

"Your future will be my past" - Second World War veteran, 91-year-old Harry Smith upstages Ed Miliband at the Labour Party Conference with a speech that reduces politicians to tears.

That link wont open ... Labour and media only want maximum exposure for the Labour leadership crisis at the moment!

[mashman]

That link wont open ... Labour and media only want maximum exposure for the Labour leadership crisis at the moment!

Have a boobtoob version:



Politics is all about who can shout loudest and scream the right things innit. It can, and will, be used against itself.

[SPman]

True! Always money at the root of every problem but average political pundits will never face up to it's reality!

Resounding win by National completely overshadowed by constant publicity for Labour over it's leadership failure and failure at the polls!

Every newspaper you pick up is full of it, TV news is full of it, there is no doubt about where the media is centred politically in New Zealand!

It's centered on trashing and marginalising any opposition to national..........

[oldrider]

It's centered on trashing and marginalising any opposition to national..........

True but how do you reconcile the constant pushing of Labour (for whatever reason) into the front pages of almost every news paper in the country?

Might be a bit hard for you to gage from over there but is sure stands out like dogs balls here, where I am!

Remember tha old adage: "The only bad publicity is no publicity"!

[mashman]

‘Anti-nuclear’ Obama plans to spend $1 trillion on nukes

[oldrider]

Have a boobtoob version:

Politics is all about who can shout loudest and scream the right things innit. It can, and will, be used against itself.

OK fair enough, I live practically right where the foundations of our NZ welfare system grew out of and frequently ask my self the question, if we led the world then, why do we not lead it now?

If Britain and it's NHS led the world why is it falling around their necks now?

The reason always come down to the fact that whatever social advance our world makes, it is never very long before it gets choked to death by Debt!

The financial compounding debt system is the enemy and until that strangle hold is ripped away and the orthodox political parties stop pandering to it, nothing will change!

We can send vehicles to outer space and back and yet we can not maintain a monetary system to sustain our everyday lives without war booms and bust economics!

WHY?

It is not a fluke that this happens, it is engineered on purpose and that purpose and it's perpetrators need to be rooted out flayed to death and corrected!

Then and only then might you see some real social justice and peace in the world!

That is the conclusion my life experience has taught me and I believe that the perpetrators while obvious are protected by the very people that need them to be gone!

[yokel]

People like being told what they want to hear, that's why we're fucked!

[SPman]

True but how do you reconcile the constant pushing of Labour (for whatever reason) into the front pages of almost every news paper in the country?

Might be a bit hard for you to gage from over there but is sure stands out like dogs balls here, where I am!

They're the easiest target and old habits die hard - keep hammering the biggest opposition party and take the odd opportunity to snipe at the lesser ones - continued bad coverage is like water torture, gradually wearing down "the others" Throw enough mud and some will stick. A bit like policy - National had fuck allexcept business as usual, and the msm didn't report on any of the rest, unless they could get a snide dig in and run it down. But quite happy to headline manufactured lies about Labour and Cunliffe.

I'm pretty aware of the papers over there - the wonders (or not) of the net. Perhaps I should just say fuck it, pull my head back into the sand like the rest of the population and ignore what's going on, but, I'm a 5th generation Euro with kids and grandkids over there and often, you can get a clearer picture of events by standing back a bit with a critical eye......

The reason always come down to the fact that whatever social advance our world makes, it is never very long before it gets choked to death by Debt!

There's a good explanation of that in "The Five Stages Of Collapse" by Dmity Orlov. Makes interesting reading and he has a humourous style that makes it easy to read as well....