Stupid World

[mashman]

The general populous has to take its share of the blame. Living beyond your own means, debt consolidation,no savings in the bank (however small they may be). Pay check to pay check lifestyle spending more than you earn lifestyle all adds up. It's been a ridiculous scenario for decades that everyone has tried to ignore.

True to a degree. I certainly agree on the we've ignored it bit, however without those who "overstretch", there is no growth. What is affordable one day quite easily becomes unaffordable the next because of the actions of a relative few. It's always been pay cheque to pay cheque for many people, quite possibly the majority and whilst I agree that some take on too much, I'd say that they generally do so because they project that they can afford that debt. The rising cost of living is what tips that balance, but as you say, people have ignored it and it has always been that way.

[jonbuoy]

We make a rod for our own backs, our grandparents had a make do and mend attitude. Repaired/made their own clothes, could make a whole chicken last for three or fours meals entertained themselves on a weekend for very little money and lived on one income. We can all go back to this lifestyle, only reason we don't is because we don't want to.

[avgas]

Gotta feel for the Cypriot's.

The banks fuck up and the people pay for it. Funny how no one actually comes out and says it that way. People being taxed on money that they've already been taxed on to bailout the useless. If the video, linked above, is anything to go by, then legal challenges are going to be more money down the drain as it states that the ESM are immune from prosecution.

Last time I checked, Kiwibank and KiwiRail not only required heavy investment to get restarted - are yet to make profit.
Solid Energy - lets just say I won't get into, as my dad was at Pike River 2 weeks prior to the end of it.
NZ Police shutting offices.
Army can't afford tanks.
Airforce can't afford planes.
Navy can't afford boats that float in areas that surround our land (Antarctica).
OCR held at 2.5% for 3 years now - smells like 90's Japan.

We may not be getting a 10% chop of our savings to rescue the economy - but we have vampire fangs sucking us of 30% p/a to get 3/8th of fuck all in return.
Who needs dodgy banks when you have a government who couldn't run an ice-cream cart? And have the ambition of a half-dead rodent.

[mashman]

We make a rod for our own backs, our grandparents had a make do and mend attitude. Repaired/made their own clothes, could make a whole chicken last for three or fours meals entertained themselves on a weekend for very little money and lived on one income. We can all go back to this lifestyle, only reason we don't is because we don't want to.

I agree. Although it's gonna be kind of tricky given that the economy rely's on our consumption.

[mashman]

Last time I checked, Kiwibank and KiwiRail not only required heavy investment to get restarted - are yet to make profit.
Solid Energy - lets just say I won't get into, as my dad was at Pike River 2 weeks prior to the end of it.
NZ Police shutting offices.
Army can't afford tanks.
Airforce can't afford planes.
Navy can't afford boats that float in areas that surround our land (Antarctica).
OCR held at 2.5% for 3 years now - smells like 90's Japan.

We may not be getting a 10% chop of our savings to rescue the economy - but we have vampire fangs sucking us of 30% p/a to get 3/8th of fuck all in return.
Who needs dodgy banks when you have a government who couldn't run an ice-cream cart? And have the ambition of a half-dead rodent.

Great description. Are you saying that DB is a prime candidate for PM?

[avgas]

Great description. Are you saying that DB is a prime candidate for PM?

6 vs half a dozen. Get one moron out to put another in.

While I strongly disapprove of Hitlers disgusting side. I do often wonder how NZ would managed if someone gassed the Beehive.

I suspect we would thrive.
Power is like cocaine. Only selected few search it out. Usually the type of people who you don't want to live with.

[mashman]

6 vs half a dozen. Get one moron out to put another in.

While I strongly disapprove of Hitlers disgusting side. I do often wonder how NZ would managed if someone gassed the Beehive.

I suspect we would thrive.
Power is like cocaine. Only selected few search it out. Usually the type of people who you don't want to live with.

Aye, that seems to be very twue indeed.

No problem. If they're doing tours I'll fill the missus full of beans and search out a spark.

Only suspect ... thing is they seem to get bored very quickly and dream up new ways of showing people just how stupid they are. Whilst entertaining and harbouring a certain want to be a part of that crowd to apply the final touches in your subjugation, I'd still prefer a little bit of happy happy joy joy without the guilts. Perhaps they could cut that bit out for me

[mashman]

Can't see the woods for the oil.

Peru declares Amazon oil contamination emergency

Amazon Rainforest Up for Auction

[mashman]

A lone child walks among debris and rubble strewn across a street as a result of intense fighting in Deir al-Zor, Syria. The United Nations has warned it will soon run out of money to cope with the exodus of Syrian refugees fleeing across the borders to safety

How the fuck can you run out of money? It's just about the only infinite resource on the planet!

[SMOKEU]

We make a rod for our own backs, our grandparents had a make do and mend attitude. Repaired/made their own clothes, could make a whole chicken last for three or fours meals entertained themselves on a weekend for very little money and lived on one income. We can all go back to this lifestyle, only reason we don't is because we don't want to.

It's not that easy with the economy today and an "average" job. Housing is fucking expensive (unless you want to live in a ghetto), as is food, vehicles, fuel, electricity.....

It doesn't leave much, if anything extra.

[mashman]

Euro ministers in bid to finalise Cyprus bailout...

"Their meeting comes a day after Cyprus made the shock announcement that the cost of its EU-IMF bailout had surged to 23 billion euros ($30 billion), putting the teetering economy in danger of collapse and further endangering big bank deposits."

The greatest heist in history... and it's legal.

[Ocean1]

The greatest heist in history... and it's legal.

Borrowing money and not repaying it isn't legal.

More sordid than great, too.

[mashman]

Borrowing money and not repaying it isn't legal.

More sordid than great, too.

True... unless they write it off I guess.

Ohhhhh yeah. Although I would imagine those patting themselves on the back would be seeing it as the greatest. Are they really trying to kill the Euro?

[Ocean1]

True... unless they write it off I guess.

Won't make it legal. Just impossible for Cyprus to borrow money again.

Ohhhhh yeah. Although I would imagine those patting themselves on the back would be seeing it as the greatest. Are they really trying to kill the Euro?

The defaulters? More likely to be patting themselves on the front.

Are they really trying to kill the Euro?

Cyprus? Nah, they're just trying to get something for nothing, old game, never works.

[mashman]

Won't make it legal. Just impossible for Cyprus to borrow money again.

The defaulters? More likely to be patting themselves on the front.

Cyprus? Nah, they're just trying to get something for nothing, old game, never works.

Not impossible, just more expensive... and it is legal to write that debt off should the creditors () feel like it.

Not the defaulters, the creditors. Mind you, they'd likely patting each other on the front/stroking each other's ego.

Noooooo, the Troika.