Stupid World

[mashman]

I get exactly what you are saying and I wish it was not so ... but just face the reality of our lives and get on with it ..

heh heh heh.......

"they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist...When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat....then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew...

When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out." Martin Niemoller

[Banditbandit]

heh heh heh.......

If you think the two statements are contradictory, then you do not fully comprehend my position ..

[mashman]

If you think the two statements are contradictory, then you do not fully comprehend my position ..

Fair to say... just enjoyed the irony of telling someone to suck it up coz that's just the way things are, where once upon a time things weren't that way at all.

[Ocean1]

Fair to say... just enjoyed the irony of telling someone to suck it up coz that's just the way things are, where once upon a time things weren't that way at all.

Perfectly correct.

Was a time that if you didn't work hard enough you got hungry.

[oldrider]

Perfectly correct.

Was a time that if you didn't work hard enough you got hungry.

I have done nothing today ... so that's why I get hungry ... must do some work on that!

[mashman]

Was a time that if you didn't work hard enough you got hungry.

Aye, and now that there's such abundance there's still people going hungry irrespective of how hard they work. Sigh.

[Ocean1]

Aye, and now that there's such abundance there's still people going hungry irrespective of how hard they work. Sigh.

Then maybe the should have spent their handout on food rather than a new iPhone and a slab of piss.

[mashman]

Then maybe the should have spent their handout on food rather than a new iPhone and a slab of piss.

I wasn't thinking as locally as you... but hey.

[Scuba_Steve]

So, when dealing in jewgold, how do i explain that im tax exempt? When the council come for landrates? Police, that im exempt from legislation?
How do i go about having a sovereign claim to live free from your society's interference?

AK47 my man, A K forty seven

You don't. Sorry - old argument and I'm bored with it.

If you really believe your independent, cut ALL ties .. no power, not internet, no use of our roads .. no use of our stores to buy what you need. We will put an immigration post at your gate and you must apply for a visa every time you leave your property .. which must be granted BEFORE you leave your property.

I get exactly what you are saying and I wish it was not so ... but just face the reality of our lives and get on with it ..

Just to play the devil, should this also not be the same for tourists then & especially diplomats? they claim independence separate from NZ with the latter also claiming immunity from our laws so should they not also give up all rights grated by NZ?

[Brian d marge]

More software based examples only serves to further make my point though, open source has its limits.
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Lets see we are looking for a community driven service or product that relies solely on the freely given energies of the group

Kinda descibes most charities

Does that help

Giving freely is a hard concept to grasp epecially if you believe the powers that be

Stephen

[bogan]

Lets see weare looking for a community driven service or product that relies solely on the freely given enrgies of the group

Kinda descibes most charities

Does that help

Giving freely is a hard concept to grasp epecially if you believe the powers that be

Stephen

Nah i just pointed out that open source medical care isn't really a thing (and nor should it be). I'm all for a utopia, but we have to survive long enough, and not be dragged down by slackers, to reach the tipping point where societies collective outputs are so much greater than societies collective needs that the idea of IP and the like becomes redundant.

[mashman]

Nah i just pointed out that open source medical care isn't really a thing (and nor should it be). I'm all for a utopia, but we have to survive long enough, and not be dragged down by slackers, to reach the tipping point where societies collective outputs are so much greater than societies collective needs that the idea of IP and the like becomes redundant.

Seriously? The slackers? You're saying that if the slackers were massacred we'd suddenly burst into a productive sustainable cycle of human evolution? Really?

There will always be slackers. You need to learn to live with them... which only really means a roof, electricity, food, water, drugs, booze, fags, education, healthcare etc... ironically enough EXACTLY that which they currently consume. Why allow their existence to affect the standard of living for the vast majority of the country? Within a financial system, the costs of keeping the slackers will only ever rise, as will their numbers (automation, state of the economy etc...), which unfortunately means less $ going to other, arguably more vital, services. Sounds silly to me.

Fortunately, an R.B.E. would ignore the slackers and would plow on doing the best that it can... like implementing 1 piece of open source software globally in order to maximise efficiency. Sigh.

[bogan]

Seriously? The slackers? You're saying that if the slackers were massacred we'd suddenly burst into a productive sustainable cycle of human evolution? Really?

There will always be slackers. You need to learn to live with them... which only really means a roof, electricity, food, water, drugs, booze, fags, education, healthcare etc... ironically enough EXACTLY that which they currently consume. Why allow their existence to affect the standard of living for the vast majority of the country? Within a financial system, the costs of keeping the slackers will only ever rise, as will their numbers (automation, state of the economy etc...), which unfortunately means less $ going to other, arguably more vital, services. Sounds silly to me.

Fortunately, an R.B.E. would ignore the slackers and would plow on doing the best that it can... like implementing 1 piece of open source software globally in order to maximise efficiency. Sigh.

Slow down Hitler, nobody said a thing about massacring anyone.

[mashman]

Slow down Hitler, nobody said a thing about massacring anyone.

Then how are the slacker element going to be dealt with, without being the detriment to society as a whole that you perceive them to be?

[Akzle]

I get exactly what you are saying and I wish it was not so ... but just face the reality of our lives and get on with it ..

are you that old, or esoteric, that you just want somewhere warm to die?

Im not. Not either of those. I still want to set fire to things.