Stupid World

[bogan]

No they don't.

And there's been plenty of dodgy lending to meet that demand that was always there. The blame game is pointless... well, other than for scared old white muthafuckas to validate their entitlement complex that is.

So what are the unavoidable reasons you have to go into debt then? Stay renting, live within your means (or that of the dole), and you will fulfill the basic needs of food, housing, and healthcare. Debt is your choice.

For every dodgy lending, there must be a dodgy borrowing. Blame doesn't validate my entitlements, market forces and my purchasing power do. Other people decide I am entitled to quite a lot, since I'm a hardout.

[mashman]

No - I don't have to worry about bills, I can travel overseas easily and cheaply for holidays , eat out much more often, better healthcare more liberal attitudes.

What was better "back in the day"?

Like I said, access to more stuff.

They had exactly the same opportunities.

[Akzle]

Everyone still has the choice to be debt free but a lower standard of living.

Lots of people blaming the lenders for lending, surely some of the blame should go to those who borrow? Though I guess that would encourage action on your part instead of bleating about others; Baaaaaaa indeed.

you say that as though the money existed, before this magic 'lendy borrowy' shit happened...

Also, just hanging on to this wwi thing,
who chose to go in to debt for that?
Wasnt me. Wasnt the last 2 or 3 generations. Just some old white fucks that couldnt make the repayments in their life time...
Fair game though eh?

[mashman]

So what are the unavoidable reasons you have to go into debt then? Stay renting, live within your means (or that of the dole), and you will fulfill the basic needs of food, housing, and healthcare. Debt is your choice.

For every dodgy lending, there must be a dodgy borrowing. Blame doesn't validate my entitlements, market forces and my purchasing power do. Other people decide I am entitled to quite a lot, since I'm a hardout.

Ask the billions who comprise the poverty stats.

Entitlement can't exist without blame... and you go on to blame others for allowing you to be entitled to whatever you receive. Lulz it is.

[jonbuoy]

Like I said, access to more stuff. They had exactly the same opportunities.

Really - they could cure as many cancers back then? Your grandparents had access to Jet travel? Unmarried and gay couples could live together? Your grandparents could take a hot shower every day? Your grandmother could sign for a loan without your grandfathers permission? Get paid the same as your grandfather to do the same job?

[bogan]

you say that as though the money existed, before this magic 'lendy borrowy' shit happened...

Also, just hanging on to this wwi thing,
who chose to go in to debt for that?
Wasnt me. Wasnt the last 2 or 3 generations. Just some old white fucks that couldnt make the repayments in their life time...
Fair game though eh?

The wealth did.

Ask the billions who comprise the poverty stats.

Entitlement can't exist without blame... and you go on to blame others for allowing you to be entitled to whatever you receive. Lulz it is.

What their choice is, is just that, their choice.

Sorry mashy, productivity is the answer we were looking for, entitlement can't exist without productivity; others choose to reward my productivity as they see fit. Again, the choice is theirs. Capitalist freedom baby, it just works

[mashman]

Really - they could cure as many cancers back then? Your grandparents had access to Jet travel? Unmarried and gay couples could live together? Your grandparents could take a hot shower every day? Your grandmother could sign for a loan without your grandfathers permission? Get paid the same as your grandfather to do the same job?

They can't cure them today. They flew on airplanes yes. My Grandma was illegitimate and still married my Grandad, irrespective of how badly it was frowned upon. My other Grandad was gay and did indeed live with his partner. Oddly enough hot water existed, even back in the day. My wife can't get a mortgage without me today. Women are still underpaid in relation to their male counterparts today.

[mashman]

What their choice is, is just that, their choice.

Sorry mashy, productivity is the answer we were looking for, entitlement can't exist without productivity; others choose to reward my productivity as they see fit. Again, the choice is theirs. Capitalist freedom baby, it just works

Yet some practices will see one in jail and another walking free for the same crime. Turns out that it's not their choice after all.

The answer you were looking for? . Like I said, you need to blame someone for your entitlement complex.

[jonbuoy]

They can't cure them today. They flew on airplanes yes. My Grandma was illegitimate and still married my Grandad, irrespective of how badly it was frowned upon. My other Grandad was gay and did indeed live with his partner. Oddly enough hot water existed, even back in the day. My wife can't get a mortgage without me today. Women are still underpaid in relation to their male counterparts today.

Only the jetset flew in jets it wasn't until the package holidays arrived that working class people were able to head overseas for their summer holidays. They can cure a lot more today than they used to - almost none. They did have access to hot water but very few people took hot showers every day. And women are a lot less underpaid than they used to be. Despite at one point being the bread winner in the house my mother couldn't even sign for a loan for a TV. Being openly gay was not socially acceptable in the past.

I'd rather live in the present than the past.

[bogan]

Yet some practices will see one in jail and another walking free for the same crime. Turns out that it's not their choice after all.

The answer you were looking for? . Like I said, you need to blame someone for your entitlement complex.

What crime? living withing your means is no crime, neither is borrowing if you do so responsibly.

I need someone to thank for my entitlements, impulse buying I dropped a grand on a GFX card the other week, thanks Obama

[oldrider]

What crime? living withing your means is no crime, neither is borrowing if you do so responsibly.

I need someone to thank for my entitlements, impulse buying I dropped a grand on a GFX card the other week, thanks Obama

Entitlement ... you should read Danger in the comfort zone ... the extract is better reading than the actual book!

[mashman]

Only the jetset flew in jets it wasn't until the package holidays arrived that working class people were able to head overseas for their summer holidays. They can cure a lot more today than they used to - almost none. They did have access to hot water but very few people took hot showers every day. And women are a lot less underpaid than they used to be. Despite at one point being the bread winner in the house my mother couldn't even sign for a loan for a TV. Being openly gay was not socially acceptable in the past.

I'd rather live in the present than the past.

So noone went abroad because there was no such thing as the package holiday? Did they have as many cancers back in the day (down Akzle)? How do you know that very few took hot showers every day? Still not paid the same for the same work as you stated. Nothing changed in regards to loan guarantors then. It was perfectly socially acceptable. T'was the noisy minority that said it wasn't accompanied by some of the gullible public.

Then stop comparing past and present.

[mashman]

What crime? living withing your means is no crime, neither is borrowing if you do so responsibly.

I need someone to thank for my entitlements, impulse buying I dropped a grand on a GFX card the other week, thanks Obama

See the earlier posted article on the RBS pair getting off with fraud where anyone else will be sent down for it.

I rest my case.

[bogan]

See the earlier posted article on the RBS pair getting off with fraud where anyone else will be sent down for it.

I rest my case.

And you think fraud is required to live within you means? Or are you just playing the blame bleat game.

[mashman]

And you think fraud is required to live within you means? Or are you just playing the blame bleat game.

It certainly looks like fraud is required to live within your means when it comes to the entitlement brigade who take it upon themselves to decide what their means should be in order for them to live. It usually takes thousands of people to commit the same value of fraud at the lower end of the scale, yet they're the ones in jail. You wanna hedge your bets as to where the vast majority of the money that is being squandered is and who is committing fraud to ensure that they means meet their entitlements? No blame, just a simple observation that seems to elude the caughts when deciding who should be punished and who shouldn't. Yer basic injustice type of thing.