Stupid World

[bogan]

It certainly looks like fraud is required to live within your means when it comes to the entitlement brigade who take it upon themselves to decide what their means should be in order for them to live. It usually takes thousands of people to commit the same value of fraud at the lower end of the scale, yet they're the ones in jail. You wanna hedge your bets as to where the vast majority of the money that is being squandered is and who is committing fraud to ensure that they means meet their entitlements? No blame, just a simple observation that seems to elude the caughts when deciding who should be punished and who shouldn't. Yer basic injustice type of thing.

So when it comes to honest hardworking people, you can live entirely within your means without committing fraud. Good we cleared that up for you.

[mashman]

So when it comes to honest hardworking people, you can live entirely within your means without committing fraud. Good we cleared that up for you.

Hard work has nothing to do with it. Only a blithering idiot would crow otherwise. I didn't say you couldn't.

[bogan]

Hard work has nothing to do with it.

The mantra of all stupid worlders

[mashman]

The mantra of all stupid worlders

I take that as a compliment. Chur.

[Ocean1]

I take that as a compliment. Chur.

Which is almost enough to prove even to you that you really are an idiot.

And Bogy's perfectly correct: hard work and someone happy to pay for it = money.

He's also correct that people that vehemently deny that perfectly obvious truism are inevitably lazy cunts.

Must really suck to be you.

[mashman]

Which is almost enough to prove even to you that you really are an idiot.

And Bogy's perfectly correct: hard work and someone happy to pay for it = money.

He's also correct that people that vehemently deny that perfectly obvious truism are inevitably lazy cunts.

Must really suck to be you.

Only if you know what I meant.

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Not in the slightest.

[jonbuoy]

So noone went abroad because there was no such thing as the package holiday? Did they have as many cancers back in the day (down Akzle)? How do you know that very few took hot showers every day? Still not paid the same for the same work as you stated. Nothing changed in regards to loan guarantors then. It was perfectly socially acceptable. T'was the noisy minority that said it wasn't accompanied by some of the gullible public.

Then stop comparing past and present.

She couldn't sign for the loan because she was a woman - not because she was being means tested. Why don't you ask your grandparents if they had hot water on tap or if they had to boil the water to take a bath. Just because the cancers weren't diagnosed doesn't mean they didn't exist. It was mostly the wealthier middle and upper class that could afford jet travel. Alan Turing would disagree with you on social acceptance of being gay.

Maybe read up on the past - might make you more appreciative of the present.

[mashman]

She couldn't sign for the loan because she was a woman - not because she was being means tested. Why don't you ask your grandparents if they had hot water on tap or if they had to boil the water to take a bath. Just because the cancers weren't diagnosed doesn't mean they didn't exist. It was mostly the wealthier middle and upper class that could afford jet travel. Alan Turing would disagree with you on social acceptance of being gay.

Maybe read up on the past - might make you more appreciative of the present.

Bummer. It all depended on where they lived in regards to water. Like I said, they got access to more stuff (still did the same things though). That cancer wasn't diagnosed doesn't mean it was there. Even them dirty smokers survived to a similar age that we will. I doubt my grandparents flew, too late to ask too (I miss her chocolate cake). He probably would... I didn't say that being gay wasn't a "stigma", but being gay was accepted.

I'd rather look to the future thanks as it seems that we never learn from the past, even when we do have more access to stuff that goes ping. I appreciate the present a whole lot more than accepting that my past will define my future. Therefore I am appreciative of everything that mankind has achieved, and I'd like to see that continue.

[Ocean1]

Bummer. It all depended on where they lived in regards to water. Like I said, they got access to more stuff (still did the same things though). That cancer wasn't diagnosed doesn't mean it was there. Even them dirty smokers survived to a similar age that we will. I doubt my grandparents flew, too late to ask too (I miss her chocolate cake). He probably would... I didn't say that being gay wasn't a "stigma", but being gay was accepted.

I'd rather look to the future thanks as it seems that we never learn from the past, even when we do have more access to stuff that goes ping. I appreciate the present a whole lot more than accepting that my past will define my future. Therefore I am appreciative of everything that mankind has achieved, and I'd like to see that continue.

Comprehensively wrong.

I think the answer you're desperately trying to avoid is here: http://www.heritage.org/index/pdf/20...7_chapter1.pdf

And yes, it says that everyone is better off in pretty much every detail than they've ever been, particularly the poor.

Only an idiot would try to pretend that capitalism and competitive industry haven't been a resounding success.

Face it, the facts say that capitalism is performing spectacularly better than any other in human history, and they say you're an idiot.

[Scuba_Steve]

Only an idiot would try to pretend that capitalism and competitive industry haven't been a resounding success.

Face it, the facts say that capitalism is performing spectacularly better than any other in human history, and they say you're an idiot.

... "Facts" brought to you by capitalism

[Akzle]

Just because the cancers weren't diagnosed doesn't mean they didn't exist.

yes and no. Cancer rates have been fairly flat. Since fuken babylonian times.

Asthma, obesity, heart disease, alzheimers, autism... Now these are all things to ask why.

[Akzle]

hard work and someone happy to pay for it = money.

thats a really fuking odd statement. But i dont expect you, as a poor old white fuck, to see it.

Money=money. Is all that can be said.

jews invented that shit. Own and control it.
And given the choice, y'd want nothing to do with that toxic shit.

I work hard for free, as far as i can manage.

[Ocean1]

... "Facts" brought to you by capitalism

Correct. And completely unmolested.

Can you find credible evidence showing how the world's poor are historically worse off as a result of capitalism?

Perhaps you just need to talk to an old person for a touch of perspective...

[mashman]

Comprehensively wrong.

I think the answer you're desperately trying to avoid is here: http://www.heritage.org/index/pdf/20...7_chapter1.pdf

And yes, it says that everyone is better off in pretty much every detail than they've ever been, particularly the poor.

Only an idiot would try to pretend that capitalism and competitive industry haven't been a resounding success.

Face it, the facts say that capitalism is performing spectacularly better than any other in human history, and they say you're an idiot.

On noes you rolled out a report. Shame that record poverty in the western world proves your theory to be nothing more than meaningless numbers of a page.

That you attribute that which humans have achieved to capitalism and competitive industry instead of the people and their ideas speaks volumes. Your white streak is showing.

[bogan]

Comprehensively wrong.

I think the answer you're desperately trying to avoid is here: http://www.heritage.org/index/pdf/20...7_chapter1.pdf

And yes, it says that everyone is better off in pretty much every detail than they've ever been, particularly the poor.

Only an idiot would try to pretend that capitalism and competitive industry haven't been a resounding success.

Face it, the facts say that capitalism is performing spectacularly better than any other in human history, and they say you're an idiot.

Pretty good read that; certainly we have come a long way with capitalism. Kinda makes me feel good about buying ex-china too. So now we must bring capitalism to Africa and further lower poverty rates and income disparity. Trade-aid xmas shopping anyone?