Stupid World

[mashman]

http://techliberty.org.nz/gcsbs-new-...ew-zealanders/

yea...what eva

It's a bad joke really. Swallowed by a weak public full of fear and needing to be looked after. So many strong people with such a weak will. So ya get what ya vote for. I wonder if we'll get a referendum on the idea

I wonder what fantastic laws will follow. No foul language online. Breaking the Decency and Decorum Act will fill them jails right up.

[Genestho]

It's a bad joke really. Swallowed by a weak public full of fear and needing to be looked after. So many strong people with such a weak will. So ya get what ya vote for. I wonder if we'll get a referendum on the idea

Bollocks, ya get what ya bend over for. How many of these whingers have bothered to get involved in the transparent democratic process we have in this country?
It amazes me that people always seem to have enough time to blog but, I bet not ONE has made submissions on the Bill or asked to appear before the select committee, hell you can even "appear" over the phone - they'll even call YOU.

"We think these laws need to be stopped" How? By writing a flippin blog?

Here, I'll do something not one blogger has bothered to do.. Link

Government Communications Security Bureau and Related Legislation Amendment Bill

The bill is an omnibus bill that proposes amendments to the Government Communications Security Bureau Act 2003, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Act 1996, and the Intelligence and Security Committee Act 1996. The purposes of the bill are to make clear the statutory framework governing the activities of the GCSB and to enhance the external mechanisms for the oversight of the New Zealand's intelligence agencies. The Intelligence and Security Committee is inviting submissions on the bill.

The closing date for submissions is Thursday, 13 June 2013. A copy of the bill and the regulatory impact statement can be accessed from the downloads panel on this page.

Submissions can be emailed to GCSB.Bill@parliament.govt.nz. If you wish to appear before the committee, state this clearly and provide a name, daytime phone number, and email address. Submissions will generally be made public. The committee is required to report to the House on this bill by 26 July 2013.

[blue rider]

another laugh

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...f-clients.html


and some of us do a bit more than just hang out on internet forums....some of us do write letters...not that anyone would read them, but you know at least its done.
lol

[mashman]

Bollocks, ya get what ya bend over for. How many of these whingers have bothered to get involved in the transparent democratic process we have in this country?
It amazes me that people always seem to have enough time to blog but, I bet not ONE has made submissions on the Bill or asked to appear before the select committee, hell you can even "appear" over the phone - they'll even call YOU.

"We think these laws need to be stopped" How? By writing a flippin blog?

Here, I'll do something not one blogger has bothered to do.. Link

Government Communications Security Bureau and Related Legislation Amendment Bill

The bill is an omnibus bill that proposes amendments to the Government Communications Security Bureau Act 2003, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Act 1996, and the Intelligence and Security Committee Act 1996. The purposes of the bill are to make clear the statutory framework governing the activities of the GCSB and to enhance the external mechanisms for the oversight of the New Zealand's intelligence agencies. The Intelligence and Security Committee is inviting submissions on the bill.

The closing date for submissions is Thursday, 13 June 2013. A copy of the bill and the regulatory impact statement can be accessed from the downloads panel on this page.

Submissions can be emailed to GCSB.Bill@parliament.govt.nz. If you wish to appear before the committee, state this clearly and provide a name, daytime phone number, and email address. Submissions will generally be made public. The committee is required to report to the House on this bill by 26 July 2013.

I'm not a lawyer and refuse to wade through that garbage given that it's going in whether you like it or not (even if the entire country wrote objections). Nor am I interested in writing to politicians when it won't make a blind bit of difference (I've done it a few times before).

However I'm more than aware of what I would use these powers for and laugh, oh do I laugh, at what's in the post. Should I get off my arse and do something about it, it won't be to write a letter to appease my conscience. Until that time, I hope you enjoy the irony of my apathy.

[Genestho]

I'm not a lawyer and refuse to wade through that garbage given that it's going in whether you like it or not (even if the entire country wrote objections). Nor am I interested in writing to politicians when it won't make a blind bit of difference (I've done it a few times before).

However I'm more than aware of what I would use these powers for and laugh, oh do I laugh, at what's in the post. Should I get off my arse and do something about it, it won't be to write a letter to appease my conscience. Until that time, I hope you enjoy the irony of my apathy.

Writing politicians a wee letter is very different to actually submitting on current Bills and actually appearing.

If people bothered to make a submission (no you don't need to be a lawyer) and were in numbers at select committees it's fairly hard to ignore, it would hold up Parliament by using their own [EDIT: transparent and legal (if behaved)] process and I'd think quite newsworthy.

However yes, the Irony is as always - strong. As you were.

[mashman]

Writing politicians a wee letter is very different to actually submitting on current Bills and actually appearing.

If people bothered to make a submission (no you don't need to be a lawyer) and were in numbers at select committees it's fairly hard to ignore, it would hold up Parliament by using their own process and I'd think quite newsworthy.

However yes, the Irony is as always - strong. As you were.

I'm sure it is and you may well be equipped and prepared to do that sort of thing, many people aren't, including me.

You need to be able to understand what you're reading to make a submission right? Nice idea. Why hasn't there been a campaign as your post is the first I've seen that they're accepting submissions around citizens concerns. It may well be newsworthy, but given that it was allowed to take place allegedly illegally, and in conjunction with govts ignoring the rules and their people across the globe, it'll go through irrespective of how compelling the submissions will be, because it is a global policy. Every single act of fear-mongering that takes place around the world cements ignorant attitudes towards the issue makes this legislation an absolute imperative to have in order to protect, erm, yeah let's say it's being enacted to protect the people (which is utter bullshit). If I were a tin foil hatter, I'd say that the NZ govt was being told, sorry, advised to implement the legislation in order to safeguard its economy from, hmmmmmmm, well you make your mind up, how hard would it be to turn NZ into a 3rd world country given the reliance on exports? Of course that'll be viewed as tin foil hat, but it's what I would do should the representatives of a country decide that they didn't want to open up their server to those who want them. blah blah blah ad infinitum... and the only way they can achieve it is by using the financial system. No financial system, no power.

Glad to oblige a lady.

[blue rider]

lol

cats to rule the world or at least a city in mexico


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go morris!

[Oscar]

I'm not a lawyer and refuse to wade through that garbage given that it's going in whether you like it or not (even if the entire country wrote objections). Nor am I interested in writing to politicians when it won't make a blind bit of difference (I've done it a few times before).

However I'm more than aware of what I would use these powers for and laugh, oh do I laugh, at what's in the post. Should I get off my arse and do something about it, it won't be to write a letter to appease my conscience. Until that time, I hope you enjoy the irony of my apathy.

That's not gonna stop you making uniformed pronouncements here though, is it?

[blue rider]

baked today.......frozen in Ireland, really fresh bread in OZ

http://www.smh.com.au/business/coles...612-2o3ye.html

[mashman]

That's not gonna stop you making uniformed pronouncements here though, is it?

Take from it what you will.

[oneofsix]

baked today.......frozen in Ireland, really fresh bread in OZ

http://www.smh.com.au/business/coles...612-2o3ye.html

Wonder how they would feel about frozen dough, the dough isn't baked before it is frozen. Must be OK or Subway would be in trouble.

[mashman]

The fuckin bludger bastards are such rip-off cunts... and for every one that does get caught there are hundreds of them out there that don't. Bludgers. He shoulda given his shareholders more of a cut so that they wouldn't insist on an audit.

[Oscar]

The fuckin bludger bastards are such rip-off cunts... and for every one that does get caught there are hundreds of them out there that don't. Bludgers. He shoulda given his shareholders more of a cut so that they wouldn't insist on an audit.

There are hundreds of $400m Ponzi schemes out there?

You are such a wally...

[mashman]

There are hundreds of $400m Ponzi schemes out there?

You are such a wally...

And you know there aren't because? there have been a few $billion ponzi's exposed in the US and I believe that there are hundreds if not thousands (can't remember the number from an article I read a month or two ago) multi million $ ponzi naughty boys languishing in US jails as we speak. Or are you saying that because they haven't been caught yet that ponzi schemes don't exist?

And here's a little list. Notice how the number grows across the centuries.. Did you know that the financial system is nothing more than a ponzi scheme?

Dickhead.

[Ocean1]

Did you know that the financial system is nothing more than a ponzi scheme?

Well you sure as fuck don't. By your own admission you not only know fuck all about it but you can't be fucked finding out. So 'scuse me if I take your opinion with the grain of salt it's worth.

Moron.