Stupid World

[Katman]

I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.

Yeah, you strike me as that sort.

[Akzle]

Did you fact check that, even a little bit?

And I think one of the reasons of putting a chip in would be to keep lines shorter

I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.

and when you exceed the posted speed limit, their sensor can tag you and deduct it straight from your realme account.
And if you become politically undesirable they can flip the switch...

[bogan]

and when you exceed the posted speed limit, their sensor can tag you and deduct it straight from your realme account.
And if you become politically undesirable they can flip the switch...

It will do neither of those things.

And there is already a thing called a speed camera, and a number plate.

But if you're really worried, there is a thing called a scalpel.

[Akzle]

It will do neither of those things.

to whom according?

[bogan]

to whom according?

One with an understanding or RFID technologies.

[Scuba_Steve]

Did you fact check that, even a little bit?

And I think one of the reasons of putting a chip in would be to keep lines shorter

I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.

If it can do all that I think it's an awesome thing for stupid worlders to have... by that stage I'll probably be a full "outlaw" so it'll give me access to people like Bogans money, house, cars/bikes; fuck it'll be better than working

[Akzle]

One with an understanding or RFID technologies.

while i get that precludes remote detonation (though not inductive superheating), the roadside scanning is fully viable. Even at >100km/h and inside an ungrounded metal cage

[bogan]

If it can do all that I think it's an awesome thing for stupid worlders to have... by that stage I'll probably be a full "outlaw" so it'll give me access to people like Bogans money, house, cars/bikes; fuck it'll be better than working

Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?

while i get that precludes remote detonation (though not inductive superheating), the roadside scanning is fully viable. Even at >100km/h and inside an ungrounded metal cage

No, it just isn't.

[Akzle]

Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?



No, it just isn't.

nyahahahahaha. Lulz. Your dum.

[bogan]

nyahahahahaha. Lulz. Your dum.

If you can explain how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power, then I'm all ears...

In the mean time, I think taking ANPR is a somewhat more attractive option

[Akzle]

If you can explain how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power, then I'm all ears...

In the mean time, I think taking ANPR is a somewhat more attractive option

not much clued up on rf, are ya?

The answer is inductively. (duh)

hell, i could probably pull voltage out of the air on 13.5meg right meow. that shits longer wave than AM CB and THAT shit is good for a few fucken kms, innit.

The rfid chip antenna doesn't "push it's signal". You need to google this shit at least, before posting.

[Scuba_Steve]

Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?

for starters paywave's only security is someone not bothering to obtain the data
and if the rest of the abilities are via RFID they're no secure than the Paywave... but hey I'm all for you stupid worlders having them; don't worry I'm sure they'll implement some sort of security theater "protection" so you can feel safe

[bogan]

not much clued up on rf, are ya?

The answer is inductively. (duh)

hell, i could probably pull voltage out of the air on 13.5meg right meow. that shits longer wave than AM CB and THAT shit is good for a few fucken kms, innit.

The rfid chip antenna doesn't "push it's signal". You need to google this shit at least, before posting.

Of course RFID pushes it's signal out, pretty fucking useless if it's only in receive mode. The question is still "how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power" were it simple RF shit they'd already be good for that sort of range. Then again, reality is not a strong point with stupid worlders...

for starters paywave's only security is someone not bothering to obtain the data
and if the rest of the abilities are via RFID they're no secure than the Paywave... but hey I'm all for you stupid worlders having them; don't worry I'm sure they'll implement some sort of security theater "protection" so you can feel safe

Paywave uses cryptography on the card, you can't just obtain that data. Fucks sake, even rolling codes have been around decades; get with the times mate.

[Scuba_Steve]

Paywave uses cryptography on the card, you can't just obtain that data. Fucks sake, even rolling codes have been around decades; get with the times mate.

it takes a laptop, 50$ of components & someone with paywave to get their CC details; then you just need a card writer & ta da you have access to all their moneys not just the 80$ paywave limit. Even John Key could do it... Great security there but don't worry it has "cryptography on the card" that makes it totally safe, about as safe as WEP security on WiFi

[bogan]

it takes a laptop, 50$ of components & someone with paywave to get their CC details; then you just need a card writer & ta da you have access to all their moneys not just the 80$ paywave limit. Even John Key could do it... Great security there but don't worry it has "cryptography on the card" that makes it totally safe, about as safe as WEP security on WiFi

Which isn't a problem with the technology, it's a problem with legacy compatibility. You're not obtaining the paywave data, you're obtaining the credit card data which just happens (though this may be phased out soon, to be written to, and accessibly through the paywave RFID chip.