Stupid World

[Ocean1]

Ummmmm can u make yourself look even more..... interesting...

all I have posted comes from THE ACTUAL FACTS

The velocity and stock are US federal. Actual data ..not off some conspiracy theory web site
.
The shipping data is actual real time data ...

I am NOT making this shit up ...un like ur good self ..who still hasn't the balls to take his head out of the sand ..

For shits and giggles ..take the m2 graph I gave u ,, extrapolate the little wiggly line upwards ...and it will give u a date ... ... so if conditions stay the same ...what on earth do think the likely result will be ...

Your turn o wise one ....... do explain

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Got a coherent answer to that question yet dude?

How that Fred M2 graph data correlates to market crashes?

And yes, we can all see that the wee wiggly line is going up, and that historic crashes are shown with the grey bars.

What we're lacking, here is not any ability to read graphs or interpolate data, it's an explanation from your deep international economic experience of exactly what the causal link is?

Or any fucking link at all.

[yokel]

Got a coherent answer to that question yet dude?

How that Fred M2 graph data correlates to market crashes?

And yes, we can all see that the wee wiggly line is going up, and that historic crashes are shown with the grey bars.

What we're lacking, here is not any ability to read graphs or interpolate data, it's an explanation from your deep international economic experience of exactly what the causal link is?

Or any fucking link at all.

I think the grey bars are recession periods. https://youtu.be/OTzbnRbfzeI?t=10m32s

[Brian d marge]

You have my sympathies, I did not know the speed limit in Japan was 90 k's

80 actually ...on the highway....

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[Brian d marge]

Got a coherent answer to that question yet dude?

How that Fred M2 graph data correlates to market crashes?

And yes, we can all see that the wee wiggly line is going up, and that historic crashes are shown with the grey bars.

What we're lacking, here is not any ability to read graphs or interpolate data, it's an explanation from your deep international economic experience of exactly what the causal link is?

Or any fucking link at all.

I gave it to you ..name and reason why

Have another look David x li ...and his magic torch

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[Ocean1]

I gave it to you ..name and reason why

Have another look David x li ...and his magic torch

sent for a divine source

No you haven't.

All we've had from you is vague waffle about M2 stock increasing and "work it out yourself".

So yet again: What's the relationship between M2 stock and market crashes?

And no, I'm not interested in you quoting the same vague waffle again.

[Ocean1]

I think the grey bars are recession periods. https://youtu.be/OTzbnRbfzeI?t=10m32s

Correct.

And they're related to M2 stock availability exactly how?

[Brian d marge]

No you haven't.

All we've had from you is vague waffle about M2 stock increasing and "work it out yourself".

So yet again: What's the relationship between M2 stock and market crashes?

And no, I'm not interested in you quoting the same vague waffle again.

Ok so now it's ANOTHER question .
what's the relationship between m2 and stockmarket crash

Simple answer is ..too much cheap money and what does cheap money do? It inflates prices and what happens when prices rise??? Purchasing power drops to be precise
And when prices go up ....people stop spending ...
And when people stop spending the velocity of money drops que Mashies chart that points downward
And when the velocity drops ...growth stops because it ain't being lent out . fractionally.. pulled out of a bankers arse to use ur parlance
And the whole ponzi scheme collapses
See the great depression.. cheap money in the twenties being constricted in the thirties with the fact that the boys wanted the funny money to be backed by stuff ..the real bill doctrine .( Not near a computer so this is off top of head ..so don't quote) ....so we have
a period of falling income, prices, and employment caused by the choking effects of a restricted money supply.
But hey
Trade war ...currency war ..world war and while ur at it transfer those assets .. what could possibly go wrong ...
Oh wait .....
Crisis of the Third Century

14th century
17th century
18th century
19th century
20th Century

Panic of 1901, a U.S. economic recession that started a fight for financial control of the Northern Pacific Railway
Panic of 1907, a U.S. economic recession with bank failures
Depression of 1920-21, a U.S. economic recession following the end of WW1
Wall Street Crash of 1929 and Great Depression (1929–1939) the worst depression of modern history
1970s energy crisis
OPEC oil price shock(1973)
Secondary banking crisis of 1973–1975 in the UK
Early 1980s Recession
Latin American debt crisis
Chilean crisis of 1982
Japanese asset price bubble (1986–2003)
Bank stock crisis (Israel 1983)
Black Monday (1987)
Savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s in the U.S.
Early 1990s Recession
1991 India economic crisis
Finnish banking crisis (1990s)
Swedish banking crisis (1990s)
1994 economic crisis in Mexico
1997 Asian financial crisis
1998 Russian financial crisis
Argentine economic crisis (1999–2002)

Oh and Venezuela....must forget them.....

sent for a divine source

[bogan]

Ok so now it's ANOTHER question .
what's the relationship between m2 and stockmarket crash

Simple answer is ..too much cheap money and what does cheap money do? It inflates prices and what happens when prices rise??? Purchasing power drops to be precise
And when prices go up ....people stop spending ...
And when people stop spending the velocity of money drops que Mashies chart that points downward
And when the velocity drops ...growth stops because it ain't being lent out . fractionally.. pulled out of a bankers arse to use ur parlance
And the whole ponzi scheme collapses
See the great depression.. cheap money in the twenties being constricted in the thirties with the fact that the boys wanted the funny money to be backed by stuff ..the real bill doctrine .( Not near a computer so this is off top of head ..so don't quote) ....so we have
a period of falling income, prices, and employment caused by the choking effects of a restricted money supply.
But hey
Trade war ...currency war ..world war and while ur at it transfer those assets .. what could possibly go wrong ...
Oh wait .....
Crisis of the Third Century

14th century
17th century
18th century
19th century
20th Century

Panic of 1901, a U.S. economic recession that started a fight for financial control of the Northern Pacific Railway
Panic of 1907, a U.S. economic recession with bank failures
Depression of 1920-21, a U.S. economic recession following the end of WW1
Wall Street Crash of 1929 and Great Depression (1929–1939) the worst depression of modern history
1970s energy crisis
OPEC oil price shock(1973)
Secondary banking crisis of 1973–1975 in the UK
Early 1980s Recession
Latin American debt crisis
Chilean crisis of 1982
Japanese asset price bubble (1986–2003)
Bank stock crisis (Israel 1983)
Black Monday (1987)
Savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s in the U.S.
Early 1990s Recession

Oh and Venezuela....must forget them.....

sent for a divine source

So, working backwards (and trimming those currencies not covered in your graph), we get to the 1990s recesion, which is not characterised by a marked increase in M2 money stock, in fact the trend simply continues linearly from the last 10 years. Considering the exponential nature of the growth, it's technically in decline, which then further declines during the crash. So to put it simply, your own evidence disproves this notion than increase in M2 Money stock is casually linked to a market crash in the very first instance examined.

[yokel]

And don't forget Nixon taking the US dollar off the gold standard "temporally"

It's all going to end very badly.

[yokel]

Correct.

And they're related to M2 stock availability exactly how?

I'm not sure? but the experiential growth of M2 is an issue.

The financial criss of 2008 is not over yet.

[Ocean1]

Ok so now it's ANOTHER question .
what's the relationship between m2 and stockmarket crash

Simple answer is ..too much cheap money and what does cheap money do? It inflates prices and what happens when prices rise??? Purchasing power drops to be precise
And when prices go up ....people stop spending ...
And when people stop spending the velocity of money drops que Mashies chart that points downward
And when the velocity drops ...growth stops because it ain't being lent out . fractionally.. pulled out of a bankers arse to use ur parlance
And the whole ponzi scheme collapses
See the great depression.. cheap money in the twenties being constricted in the thirties with the fact that the boys wanted the funny money to be backed by stuff ..the real bill doctrine .( Not near a computer so this is off top of head ..so don't quote) ....so we have
a period of falling income, prices, and employment caused by the choking effects of a restricted money supply.
But hey
Trade war ...currency war ..world war and while ur at it transfer those assets .. what could possibly go wrong ...
Oh wait .....
Crisis of the Third Century

14th century
17th century
18th century
19th century
20th Century

Panic of 1901, a U.S. economic recession that started a fight for financial control of the Northern Pacific Railway
Panic of 1907, a U.S. economic recession with bank failures
Depression of 1920-21, a U.S. economic recession following the end of WW1
Wall Street Crash of 1929 and Great Depression (1929–1939) the worst depression of modern history
1970s energy crisis
OPEC oil price shock(1973)
Secondary banking crisis of 1973–1975 in the UK
Early 1980s Recession
Latin American debt crisis
Chilean crisis of 1982
Japanese asset price bubble (1986–2003)
Bank stock crisis (Israel 1983)
Black Monday (1987)
Savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s in the U.S.
Early 1990s Recession
1991 India economic crisis
Finnish banking crisis (1990s)
Swedish banking crisis (1990s)
1994 economic crisis in Mexico
1997 Asian financial crisis
1998 Russian financial crisis
Argentine economic crisis (1999–2002)

Oh and Venezuela....must forget them.....

sent for a divine source

No, it's the same question:

Oh right, right. How about you explain to everyone how that means the stock market crashed in 2014.

And the above waffle isn't an answer.

Try again: Show me the relationship between M2 stock on your graph and the market crash dates on your graph.

[Katman]

Try again: Show me the relationship between M2 stock on your graph and the market crash dates on your graph.

Did you learn that big letters thing from TheDemonLard?

[Ocean1]

Did you learn that big letters thing from TheDemonLard?

No. Probably the same charitable impulse, though, I figured he was either half blind or a half wit.

And now that I can see you can actually read it it's obvious you're a half wit too.

[sidecar bob]

When the fuck is Fred going to get his boat fixed?

[Brian d marge]

So, working backwards (and trimming those currencies not covered in your graph), we get to the 1990s recesion, which is not characterised by a marked increase in M2 money stock, in fact the trend simply continues linearly from the last 10 years. Considering the exponential nature of the growth, it's technically in decline, which then further declines during the crash. So to put it simply, your own evidence disproves this notion than increase in M2 Money stock is casually linked to a market crash in the very first instance examined.

1990 recession was cause by solar cycles , causing an increase in wheat weevils, leading to a drop in production and hence commodities