Stupid World

[Ocean1]

Why not. Free will and a free market n all that.

Buying stuff? Short memory much

Because the reason he's selling them is to make money? And the buyer's money is as good as anyone else's, regardless of preferred religion, age, political persuasion etc etc. Tends to be the prevailing feature of a free market, the only place you get sellers deciding who can buy what based on anything else is dead and dying communist states.

What? you're the one advocating an artificial method of deciding who gets what, that quote was me pointing out what a fucking stupid idea that was.

[Ocean1]

Idealists miss the reality of situations....it sounds good on paper, but that's the same thing money is printed on

It usually sounds fucking pathetic on paper too.

Like fuckwits bleating about "rich pricks" focusing on money to the exclusion of social responsibility.... and then demanding money to fix their problem.

[mashman]

Because the reason he's selling them is to make money? And the buyer's money is as good as anyone else's, regardless of preferred religion, age, political persuasion etc etc. Tends to be the prevailing feature of a free market, the only place you get sellers deciding who can buy what based on anything else is dead and dying communist states.

What? you're the one advocating an artificial method of deciding who gets what, that quote was me pointing out what a fucking stupid idea that was.

I see... aaaaaaaaaand back to talking about how a money world works... despite the fact that you said the poor getting everything and I showed you otherwise . Actually the current "free" market limits who is allowed access to what resources. That you can't reconcile that tickles me immensely.

Aye, shifting the goalposts to more familiar ground coz your original assertion was, as per usual, complete bullshit. Not unexpected.

[Ocean1]

I see... aaaaaaaaaand back to talking about how a money world works... despite the fact that you said the poor getting everything and I showed you otherwise . Actually the current "free" market limits who is allowed access to what resources. That you can't reconcile that tickles me immensely.

Aye, shifting the goalposts to more familiar ground coz your original assertion was, as per usual, complete bullshit. Not unexpected.

You've obviously got the wrong idea about a "free" market. It doesn't mean shit is free. It means everyone is free to buy and sell their shit for whatever price they can agree on. So the only limit is how much you can earn. Not attractive to lazy fuckwits, I know. Live with it.

No goalposts moving here, that's your favorite tactic. And your bullshit detector is so choked on your own home-grown bullshit it don't work any more.

[mashman]

You've obviously got the wrong idea about a "free" market. It doesn't mean shit is free. It means everyone is free to buy and sell their shit for whatever price they can agree on. So the only limit is how much you can earn. Not attractive to lazy fuckwits, I know. Live with it.

No goalposts moving here, that's your favorite tactic. And your bullshit detector is so choked on your own home-grown bullshit it don't work any more.

... where did I say the "free" market functioned on the premise of free shit?

bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... I couldn't find a suitable ironing pic for that level of extreme ironing. Primarily as an ironing board doesn't fit up the arse.

[Ocean1]

... where did I say the "free" market functioned on the premise of free shit?

bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... I couldn't find a suitable ironing pic for that level of extreme ironing. Primarily as an ironing board doesn't fit up the arse.

You have never at any time said what premise your "money free" market functioned on. As it most closely resembles good ol' fashioned communism with heavy leavenings of cargo cult philosophies I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the link between earning shit and getting shit is completely missing.

Who decides who gets what again?

[Voltaire]

You have never at any time said what premise your "money free" market functioned on. As it most closely resembles good ol' fashioned communism with heavy leavenings of cargo cult philosophies I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the link between earning shit and getting shit is completely missing.

Who decides who gets what again?

No evidence to suggest Strawman does any of what he says, more like the Tooting Popular Front but without the hat.

[mashman]

You have never at any time said what premise your "money free" market functioned on. As it most closely resembles good ol' fashioned communism with heavy leavenings of cargo cult philosophies I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the link between earning shit and getting shit is completely missing.

Who decides who gets what again?

Yet you claim I'm wrong ... priceless. Moreover you go on to state what it most closely resembles bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa. Thanks man.

The producers. Those many many businesses out there. Tis their effort after all eh.

[Ocean1]

Yet you claim I'm wrong ... priceless. Moreover you go on to state what it most closely resembles bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa. Thanks man.

The producers. Those many many businesses out there. Tis their effort after all eh.

Insomuch as you've described how shit will be allocated it is most certainly a communist concept. And the fact that you demonstrate that you have no understanding of who produces what is definitely allied to a cargo cult mentality. But you go laugh some more, that'll make it less obvious.

And yeah, that's obvious to anyone not actually a complete fuckwit.

[mashman]

Insomuch as you've described how shit will be allocated it is most certainly a communist concept. And the fact that you demonstrate that you have no understanding of who produces what is definitely allied to a cargo cult mentality. But you go laugh some more, that'll make it less obvious.

And yeah, that's obvious to anyone not actually a complete fuckwit.

I thought the producer reserved the right to pass on his goods to whoever he liked? A communist concept you say? Quite an epic fail for someone touted as one of our brightest. See, there ya go again claiming that you know what I mean when you've stated, yet again, that you don't. Weeeeeeeeeee and around we go.

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa... Yeah, I've seen your measuring stick.

[sidecar bob]

I thought the producer reserved the right to pass on his goods to whoever he liked?

Although a sensible producer would pass his goods on to the highest bidder. Unless he is a complete idiot of course.

[mashman]

Although a sensible producer would pass his goods on to the highest bidder. Unless he is a complete idiot of course.

Noooooooo... is that how it currently works.

[sidecar bob]

Noooooooo... is that how it currently works.

Yes, and how do you get a guy that has a serious investment in production plant, equipment, staff & building to accept any less?
Hardworking folk that expect nothing for nothing will never run with it.
And that describes most producers.

[bogan]

You have never at any time said what premise your "money free" market functioned on. As it most closely resembles good ol' fashioned communism with heavy leavenings of cargo cult philosophies I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that the link between earning shit and getting shit is completely missing.

Who decides who gets what again?

That's a little unfair, he hinted and offered half arsed explanations many times; unfortunatly they contradict with what he has said previously, and with reality.

Lets face it, he's got no fucking clue what an RBE is about or how it works. He's just another freeloader trying to con hard working folks out of what they deserve. An actual RBE is something worth aiming for, but it'd be nothing like what this mush brained fuckwit rambles on about.

[mashman]

Yes, and how do you get a guy that has a serious investment in production plant, equipment, staff & building to accept any less?
Hardworking folk that expect nothing for nothing will never run with it.
And that describes most producers.

See, there are a few answers to that... but this is KB If producers are a minority, then they may well be up shit creek without a paddle where their employees are happy to run with it. On the plus side, I don't see what the producer will be losing. Communicating that last bit is the hard bit where they don't want to let go. Thing is, as a former capitalist of some 4 decades, I completely understand why some won't want to let go so easily. Meh. We'll see what happens.