Stupid World

[Ocean1]

Why would I buy a hammer given that I'm willing to give another one away from free? You can indeed set the price, coz, as a customer, if I walked into a store and took what I wanted for free, coz that's the way I roll, the person who doesn't set the price, according to you, will have me thrown in jail for not paying the price they had set.

Does that include tax evasion... which obviously has many more proponents.

Then why would I hire anyone for more than the value they contribute to the product?


And show me where there's more people evading tax than there are dole bludgers.

Actually, just give up, your shits getting real old.

[mashman]

Then why would I hire anyone for more than the value they contribute to the product?


And show me where there's more people evading tax than there are dole bludgers.

Actually, just give up, your shits getting real old.

Didn't say you would. Not sure how you even got to that.

Didn't say there were. Was just asking if it included those numbers.

It's not my shit when it's you that keeps making things up that I never said innit.

[bogan]

Yet they contribute more than if they had saved the money and spent none of it, or indeed spent it all on black market goods.

You clearly do not understand the 'net' concept I suggested you apply earlier. All that they can spend comes from other people's contributions, no matter how much they give back, they can only aspire to a zero net contribution, of course in most cases it stays as a negative net contribution.

[mashman]

You clearly do not understand the 'net' concept I suggested you apply earlier. All that they can spend comes from other people's contributions, no matter how much they give back, they can only aspire to a zero net contribution, of course in most cases it stays as a negative net contribution.

Did I deny that? If I had have stated out right that which you were saying was wrong, as in the definition of 'net income', then fine, assert your little ass away. Given that that isn't the case, please refer to your picture humpty. Come on straw man. I seem to remember you being better than the effort you've put in so far. I guess I gave you way too much credit.

[Katman]

I seem to remember you being better than the effort you've put in so far.

I suspect you're thinking of someone else.

[bogan]

Did I deny that? If I had have stated out right that which you were saying was wrong, as in the definition of 'net income', then fine, assert your little ass away. Given that that isn't the case, please refer to your picture humpty. Come on straw man. I seem to remember you being better than the effort you've put in so far. I guess I gave you way too much credit.

I was simply asserting that if you were applying the 'net' concept (and understanding that it's application is appropriate), you would need to concede they were not making any net contribution. Now that you have conceded such, the humpty is not required.

So where is the straw man?

[mashman]

I suspect you're thinking of someone else.

heh... at least you only suspect what my thinking is.

I was simply asserting that if you were applying the 'net' concept (and understanding that it's application is appropriate), you would need to concede they were not making any net contribution. Now that you have conceded such, the humpty is not required.

So where is the straw man?

Of course the lazy are making a contribution. They're passing money on to businesses that otherwise wouldn't receive that money. Ya know, just like them other hundreds of thousands of people who aren't lazy and work exceptionally hard but are still a net tax burden. They are a tax burden, which does not mean that there is no contribution in any terms other than financial.

The straw man was your creation of an argument that states that nothing is put back into the economy which it most definitely is irrespective of whether it's a positive contribution or a negative one. The contribution exists.

[TheDemonLord]

The fastest way to boost an economy is to increase welfare payments. The bennies need to spend all their income, so any increase goes into the economy with immediate effect. Giving the top 10% a tax reduction on the other hand just means most of the cash goes to various tax shelters and has no appreciable effect on the economy.

'Right thinking people' may not like that but it is true.

Erm - look at the Great Depression in the US - the way out was to undertake a large number of big public works (which provided both work for the unemployed AND improvements in infrastructure)

[Brian d marge]

Erm - look at the Great Depression in the US - the way out was to undertake a large number of big public works (which provided both work for the unemployed AND improvements in infrastructure)

Dont forget the war , reduces a few bennies AND made some shekels
Oh then , they used it as an excuse to hide the gold ....and launder the gold , and steal the gold ....

we need another war

[Akzle]

ja so.
still waiting for ocean to pay his debt.

and also explain this clusterfuck.

[Ocean1]

ja so.
still waiting for ocean to pay his debt.

and also explain this clusterfuck.

I have zero debt.

And no problem with any that do.

Just fuckwits that bleat about both of those choices.

[Akzle]

I have zero debt.

And no problem with any that do.

Just fuckwits that bleat about both of those choices.

well actually cunt, ya do.by virtue of being a citizen you owe me 18.1k$. (still). your wife and kids, too.
https://debtclock.tv/world/new-zealand/

and by virtue of being in "the world" your debt is three times more than you have.

come on man, tell me again how jews are good and currency works...

[Ocean1]

well actually cunt, ya do.by virtue of being a citizen you owe me 18.1k$. (still). your wife and kids, too.
https://debtclock.tv/world/new-zealand/

and by virtue of being in "the world" your debt is three times more than you have.

come on man, tell me again how jews are good and currency works...

Well actually cunt, I don't. Not a jot.

In fact some small piece of that debt: is owed to me.

Now fuck off and find a job, you lazy cunt.

[Akzle]

Well actually cunt, I don't. Not a jot.

In fact some small piece of that debt: is owed to me.

Now fuck off and find a job, you lazy cunt.

no. you actually do. you voted yourself a great big chunk of the 18 odd billion that "nz" "owes"

why job? snowboarding is more fun.

and still with a thorough lack of explanation as to the remedy here... what, with "owing" more than exists, and the whatnot.

[mashman]

no. you actually do. you voted yourself a great big chunk of the 18 odd billion that "nz" "owes"

why job? snowboarding is more fun.

and still with a thorough lack of explanation as to the remedy here... what, with "owing" more than exists, and the whatnot.

I blame his parents.