Stupid World

[mashman]

Just as all debts are assets

... but they're not. Not even remotely close.

[bogan]

Not even close. As I've mentioned before, if your society will give me everything I want for free, then I will live that way. Your society won't allow it without $. So your assertion is moronic and shows absolutely no understanding of how an RBE works. In other words, if all of the RBE advocates got together to attempt living that way, they couldn't afford the land required nor the technology to facilitate that way of living. The only thing that's scarce is money. What choice? The choice to shaft future generations, coz any way you slice that that's exactly what you're saying and your constant choice not to accept that fact underlines that choice. Good for you.

Do it yourself you lazy fuck, 'my' society owes you nothing. You've admitted you're retired by 44, you keep telling us how much more efficient 'your' system is (it's not an RBE, don't insult Fresco by claiming it is), how much more resource you'd have in 'your' system, so what's actually the hold up in getting it going? You need to be owed some massive fund from 'my' society to kick it off satirists would struggle to make this shit up, it's that pathetic. Technology is cheap, land is fucking cheap; if you think the capitalist society makes them prohibitively expensive, maybe don't stop work at 44 I'm not even 35 and I can afford both.

[mashman]

As Cities Grow Worldwide, So Do the Numbers of Homeless... rockstar economy, er, yeah but nah.



The free market ecp in action. Ya'll should vote for more money, coz it's bound to work... after all NZ has never been so wealthy, and that's obviously come at the expense of housing people and providing various other basics... but hey, worry about your choices eh.

[Voltaire]

Nobody has to wait until even 65 to enjoy a little more free time.
It's the ingrained belief that you can only retire at the age that the govt is prepared to offer you a pittance for your efforts over the years that keeps people working until that age.
It's the biggest con job ever.
If they cancelled the pension, people would get off their arses & make shit happen & surprise the shit outta themselves to discover that they had done well enough by age 50 to support themselves comfortably for the rest of their lives.

I thought religion was the biggest con job ever.

Wished I had worked harder when I was young instead of buggering off overseas for a decade.....

Still...working in an office is not too bad when your Boss only comes over from Sydney once a year to see how its going

and you spend three nights out sampling craft beers

[bogan]

... but they're not. Not even remotely close.

They actually are, a debt is an asset when it is owed to you; it's a basic financial definition. It's why people/companies buy debts; there's actually a whole predatory market around it.

[mashman]

Do it yourself you lazy fuck, 'my' society owes you nothing. You've admitted you're retired by 44, you keep telling us how much more efficient 'your' system is (it's not an RBE, don't insult Fresco by claiming it is), how much more resource you'd have in 'your' system, so what's actually the hold up in getting it going? You need to be owed some massive fund from 'my' society to kick it off satirists would struggle to make this shit up, it's that pathetic. Technology is cheap, land is fucking cheap; if you think the capitalist society makes them prohibitively expensive, maybe don't stop work at 44 I'm not even 35 and I can afford both.

Well your society have claimed my resources and threaten me with jail if I take what I want. Pretty tricky to do anything without money. But by all means deny it. Funny though, the greenhouse unstitched itself the other night, so I have to find another few hundy to replace it in order to maintain my own food production. Poor kids that'll have to go without eh. In an RBE, I never claimed it was full blown RBE and that's your problem humpty, I would receive a replacement without anyone having to lose something. Oh ironies@your description of pathetic by comparison. But I do love your denial.

[Voltaire]

The World’s 8 Richest Men Are Now as Wealthy as Half the World’s Population

http://fortune.com/2017/01/16/world-...come-equality/

Gates, Inditex founder Amancio Ortega, veteran investor Warren Buffett, Mexico's Carlos Slim, Amazon boss Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Oracle's Larry Ellison and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg

they must have subscribed to sidecarBobs get off your arse theory, although poor old Warren is still toiling away at 85+

[mashman]

They actually are, a debt is an asset when it is owed to you; it's a basic financial definition. It's why people/companies buy debts; there's actually a whole predatory market around it.

Oh dear... two words: Unsecured Debt.

[bogan]

Well your society have claimed my resources and threaten me with jail if I take what I want. Pretty tricky to do anything without money. But by all means deny it. Funny though, the greenhouse unstitched itself the other night, so I have to find another few hundy to replace it in order to maintain my own food production. Poor kids that'll have to go without eh. In an RBE, I never claimed it was full blown RBE and that's your problem humpty, I would receive a replacement without anyone having to lose something. Oh ironies@your description of pathetic by comparison. But I do love your denial.

Ah that old chesnut, they're your resources NOW are they? Don't be so focused on the money thing, in an actual RBE, people would be making greenhouse stitchings to go around, and people with greenhouses would be making food to going around (you are spreading it around so the poor kids don't go without right?). Your lack of money, and ability to get whatever the fuck it is you're on about off the ground are both symptoms of the same thing, your lack of production; stop asking for all these handouts and go earn it until the price becomes irrelevant, that's how an RBE will start, and that is how the financial system will end; there's actually already a hell of a lot of people living it within the financial system.

[bogan]

Oh dear... two words: Unsecured Debt.

Is still an asset. Thanks for playing.

[mashman]

Is still an asset. Thanks for playing.

Nope... that's secured debt. It's called unsecured for a reason.

[mashman]

Ah that old chesnut, they're your resources NOW are they? Don't be so focused on the money thing, in an actual RBE, people would be making greenhouse stitchings to go around, and people with greenhouses would be making food to going around (you are spreading it around so the poor kids don't go without right?). Your lack of money, and ability to get whatever the fuck it is you're on about off the ground are both symptoms of the same thing, your lack of production; stop asking for all these handouts and go earn it until the price becomes irrelevant, that's how an RBE will start, and that is how the financial system will end; there's actually already a hell of a lot of people living it within the financial system.

Nah, machines would take what was ripped and fix it for free. I, and a few others in the street, have a little gathering of peeps were we give away our excess food. :killiingme@lack of production. An RBE can start in many ways, that you say that there's only 1 shoes just how much you don't know. Thanks for playing

[bogan]

Nah, machines would take what was ripped and fix it for free. I, and a few others in the street, have a little gathering of peeps were we give away our excess food. :killiingme@lack of production. An RBE can start in many ways, that you say that there's only 1 shoes just how much you don't know. Thanks for playing

Hmm, if only capitalist businesses were also applying machine automation, oh wait, they are.

Sorry, guess I should have specified it was the achievable way many of us are quietly working away to start one, you still trying the whiny handout path I assume? That you are whining about a lack of money to start one, and the obvious ability to convert useful production to money, really only leads to one conclusion about your production...

[mashman]

Hmm, if only capitalist businesses were also applying machine automation, oh wait, they are.

Sorry, guess I should have specified it was the achievable way many of us are quietly working away to start one, you still trying the whiny handout path I assume? That you are whining about a lack of money to start one, and the obvious ability to convert useful production to money, really only leads to one conclusion about your production...

They are. The result is called technological unemployment. You know, putting people out of jobs and in many cases, putting people out of well pad jobs. I spent the last 20 years putting people out of work and am very familiar with the outcomes of helping business to become more efficient. The argument against that is that people can go and do other things, which is pretty tricky when the Harvard Business Review, for one, has estimated that over the next 20/25 years 75% of current employment will be automated. It'll be amusing to see how the economy keeps functioning then. Some morons, like Gates for instance, are saying that we can tax the robots that get paid wages. It'd be funny if it wasn't such an ignorant idea.

I get no handouts other than that which my wife gives me. See, you keep talking about money where I've stated quite clearly that my way of doing things doesn't require money. Some understanding you've got there.

Anyhoo, it'll soon be time for you to end up on the ignore list. Primarily because you aren't looking for understanding as you seem to believe that you're the teacher. Amusing as always, but, nah. Oh BTW, my wife knows what your response to this post will be and I'll simply smile whilst I click the ignore button. Tis quite an achievement to end up on a list that only has Husa and TDL on it.

[Brian d marge]

As Cities Grow Worldwide, So Do the Numbers of Homeless... rockstar economy, er, yeah but nah.



The free market ecp in action. Ya'll should vote for more money, coz it's bound to work... after all NZ has never been so wealthy, and that's obviously come at the expense of housing people and providing various other basics... but hey, worry about your choices eh.

the homeless here in Japan
have solar panels , they use blue plastic sheeting to make quite comfortable habitations , with TV and small fridges , but on a serious noe the poor and in trouble are hidden and not spoken about unless something happens ( and it does )