Stupid World

[Katman]

Death from preventable disease is a man-made abomination.

So what would death from vaccination be?

[TheDemonLord]

So what would death from vaccination be?

The lesser of 2 evils.

[FJRider]

The key point is, as you've kindly made clear:



Is Incitement to Harm illegal in NZ? If the answer is yes (and I'm pretty sure it is), then the question is - how do you define Harm - this is where you and I differ.

In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime. If NO crime or illegal activity is encouraged ... it can't be incitement.

On the actual INTENT to cause harm ... that would be a stretch to PROVE in a court of law.

Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Where being known or has been proved as being illegal in a court of law, it is known as an inchoate offense, where harm is intended but may or may not have actually occurred. Proof of INTENT to cause harm is required to be found guilty.

[Graystone]

You answered it based on a principal that you only hold when it suits you. That's what I'm grilling you for. You want to use Free Speech, then I expect you to uphold it for even those you disagree with. If you want to retract your rejoicing at Censorship, I'll concede that point (then make reference to the Moral Authority to which I was originally referring)/



Are you high? Seriously? The rate of Feminism as in the number of people as a percentage of the population who self-declare as Feminist. There's no False Equivalence.



The rejection suggests otherwise.



On what planet does a previously successful, profitable IP that gets taken over by Social Justice ideology and becomes a massive financial loss not constitute an utter rejection by the Majority?

If it was accepted by the Majority, it would at worse break even. If in all the cases it was a small loss (for a Movie - that might be a few million), then I'd agree - not an utter rejection - but in the cases I cited - loosing nearly Half a Billion dollars - that's a complete and utter rejection.



I don't know, what did I say Graystone? You're the one telling this Story, wouldn't want reality get in the way of your narrative.



You were saying something about backpeddling? It's simple - by your own words, you were happy someone on a public forum (Twitter) got Censured. If you want to prove me a Hypocrite - it's simple:

Defend Alex Jone's right to free speech and critique Twitter for banning him.

But you won't. And that happens to be pertinent - I've called Alex Jones a loon and an Idiot on many MANY occasions (as Katman will attest if he remembers or is honest) - regardless of whether you think he's serious or a performance artist, I don't like him. You also don't like him.

The difference is that you rejoiced, I defended.

Which is all a gish gallop away from me explaining why Gillette had the right to make the advertisement, you questioned their rights and mandate to do so; thus it is you who needs to uphold the rights of free speech, not I.

The false equivalence is that you want to portray all feminists as agreeing with the Gillette add, and all people who are not feminists, disagreeing with it. Try to remember what we are talking about, rather than gish galloping everything down you to-do-list rabbit holes eh!

Don't be absurd, valid views can be rejected when the subject matter is clearly subjective.

Any planet. Many businesses run on a knife edge, losing 15% of a customer base is a rejection by a minority which could easily cause a business to become non-profitable.

Some bullshit you're always ready to find a way to cop out of. Just like the last time we debated, I pointed out a clear contradiction in statements you made, you denied it then fucked off. You've shown you're not worth my time trying to meander through your blatant lies about what you have or haven't said/meant, either offer some simple clarification, or don't and continue to be judged by your previous words and intent. Just like how you've said I have called for censuring, then cite my happiness that somebody was censured as evidence of that; stop being such a fucking moron, and stop changing what you say you meant based on how wrong you find yourself to be.

Twitter censorship does not violate free speech rights, it has terms and conditions which are signed upon joining. Alex Jones is free to speak somewhere else. You have a strange idea of what free speech is, I'm not a hypocrite because I disagree with that, the courts disagree with it too remember.

[Katman]

The lesser of 2 evils.

And whether you like it or not, a parent asking "but what if my child is one of the ones who dies or suffers a lifetime debilitating injury" is a perfectly valid concern - that if you were truly a supporter of free speech, you would readily admit.

[husaberg]

And whether you like it or not, a parent asking "but what if my child is one of the ones who dies or suffers a lifetime debilitating injury" is a perfectly valid concern - that if you were truly a supporter of free speech, you would readily admit.

Yet you do not have children, so its not a particularly valid concern of yours now is it.
Sounds more like you taking the opportunity to spread more conspiracy rubish. Unless of course you have suddenly learnt more than a doctor does about vaccine safety.
Theres nothing wrong with a parent asking about vaccine risks .
Its when dicks like you with no medical training or understanding spread false information about vaccine safety people take issue to it.

[Katman]

Yet you do not have children, so its not a particularly valid concern of yours now is it.

Yeah, you've busted me.

I'm only here to make you and TDL look like fucking morons.

[husaberg]

Yeah, you've busted me.

I'm only here to make you and TDL look like fucking morons.

You mean like when you never noticed that no sane person would ever suggest someone build a wall across a riverbed and then argued about it for about 12 hours yet still claim you are right.
Or the time you posted the free energy patent that allowed a car to run on coffee that you believed was real.
Everyone here knows your only here to verbalise your fantasies about Hitler to try and pick up dudes. So just how well is that working out for you.

[Katman]

Everyone here knows your only here to verbalise your fantasies about Hitler to try and pick up dudes. So just how well is that working out for you.

Considering your obvious fascination with me, I'd say it's working out just fine.

[FJRider]

You mean like when you never noticed that no sane person would ever suggest someone build a wall across a riverbed ...

They do on quite a regular basis ... They call it a DAM ...

Quite a few argue against them ... and moan about electricity prices. Go figure ...

[husaberg]

They do on quite a regular basis ... They call it a DAM ...

Quite a few argue against them ... and moan about electricity prices. Go figure ...

Dams are Dams not fences
Thats why they have different names if they were they same thing they wouldn't need different names.

[Katman]

Dams are Dams not fences

Hush now, you total utter moron.

Seriously, there are times when saying nothing is the better option.

[FJRider]

Dams are Dams not fences

They are a wall of concrete. And you specifically said wall ... not a fence Don't you read what you post ??). Tell that to "Donald" ... HE is trying to stop the flow ... He needs a dam not a fence OR a wall ...

[FJRider]

So what would death from vaccination be?

Vaccidental death ... ????

[husaberg]

They are a wall of concrete. And you specifically said wall ... not a fence Don't you read what you post ??). Tell that to "Donald" ... HE is trying to stop the flow ... He needs a dam not a fence OR a wall ...

Dams are dams ,walls are walls if you can't figure out the difference maybe you should consider how they are different and the design considerations required.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-on...he-same-thing/

Hush now, you total utter moron.

Seriously, there are times when saying nothing is the better option.

That one like the animal you use for gerbiling might end up biting you on the ass.