Stupid World

[mashman]

Here's a little cost analysis of decarbonisation schemes using the UN's own figures.

Amazingly now the IPCC is dialing back it's expected warming rates the new cost benefit ratio is 100 to 1

Who would have thought that money would stop us from being proactive eh .

[mashman]

I dunno... some, well an awful lot, of privileged people just don't get it do they... well, not even privileged.

Dutch King Willem-Alexander declares the end of the welfare state ... I can't wait to see the fallout of this.

Exclusive: 50,000 people are now facing eviction after bedroom tax ... the tax is moronic and is indicative of moronic thought processes that are regressive and not progressive.

[carbonhed]

Who would have thought that money would stop us from being proactive eh .

Awesome! I promise to pay future generations $100,000 to compensate for part of any damage... you owe me $5,000,000 now. Cash preferred.

[mashman]

Awesome! I promise to pay future generations $100,000 to compensate for part of any damage... you owe me $5,000,000 now. Cash preferred.

Always a financial solution eh... so disappointing.

[puddytat]

Some good news for a change......

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...s-8827713.html

[Scuba_Steve]

[Ocean1]

Always a financial solution eh... so disappointing.

Well, y'know, for someone who thinks money is plucked out of thin air the world is always going to be a disappointing place.

And, of course that’s the world’s fault, eh? it really should be organised so you don't have to work so fucking hard.

[Ocean1]

Some good news for a change......

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...s-8827713.html

What's good about it? Isn't it just another estimate pretty much the same as the last several years' worth from that source?

A source, I might add that took a pretty sever battering on the credibility front a year or so ago.

[Brian d marge]

Well, y'know, for someone who thinks money is plucked out of thin air the world is always going to be a disappointing place.

And, of course that’s the world’s fault, eh? it really should be organised so you don't have to work so fucking hard.

Where does money come from then ?

Stephen

[mashman]

Well, y'know, for someone who thinks money is plucked out of thin air the world is always going to be a disappointing place.

And, of course that’s the world’s fault, eh? it really should be organised so you don't have to work so fucking hard.

I know that money is plucked out of thin air, get it right. It's a small number people that are disappointing, the world is full of awesome people for the main part.

No, just a small number of people, keep up. Why won't people work hard? Doh, sorry, I should know that you measure the world and it's people against your yardstick... which, as it turns out, looks to be 3cm.

[Ocean1]

Where does money come from then ?

Stephen

Well I can't speak for your money, but mine comes from my clients, who give it to me in exchange for the work I do for them.

Yes, yes I know that's not what you mean, you don't like the fact that someone else is in control of issuing currency and you don't like the way they do it.

But none of that makes a tiny little bit of difference to the fact that it's primary function is as a unit of exchange, a function it manages perfectly well. Nor does it make a jot of difference that a few like to believe that because the evel bankers simply print the stuff without actually "earning" it then that somehow means that they shouldn't have to earn it either. A belief that, in order to protect themselves from blame for their lack, naturally extends as far as an irrational dislike and overwhelming jealousy of those that somehow manage to do OK simply by actually producing shit that others want to buy.

They could print their own money and set up in competition, of course. If their clients could be brought to have the confidence in their business that most do in the existing versions. Or vote for people who say they will arrange things differently, the way they want. They wouldn't , of course, because most of the alternatives simply don't work, but at least it's an option that stands a slim chance of getting their way. Or they could simply admit that their net worth is, in fact a roughly accurate reflection of their value to their client/s. Either way they should probably also give the evel banker slash IMF conspiracy a break, Stephen.

[Ocean1]

I know that money is plucked out of thin air, get it right. It's a small number people that are disappointing, the world is full of awesome people for the main part.

And it must be exceptionally difficult for you, having to range so far in search for the nescessary recipients of your blame for your own disappointments.

No, just a small number of people, keep up. Why won't people work hard? Doh, sorry, I should know that you measure the world and it's people against your yardstick... which, as it turns out, looks to be 3cm.

I don't have any problem with people that don't work hard at all. The problems start when they think they're worth more than the rest of the world does. Even then I don't have a problem with them, and neither does the rest of the world. In fact the ones with all the problems are invariably the ones that reckon they're worth so much more than they produce.

[mashman]

And it must be exceptionally difficult for you, having to range so far in search for the nescessary recipients of your blame for your own disappointments.

No difficulty at all, it's pretty obvious who the culprits are... however the blameless outweigh the blameable by some considerable number, so blame has already been assigned and my disappointment is fleeting as it is expected.

I don't have any problem with people that don't work hard at all. The problems start when they think they're worth more than the rest of the world does. Even then I don't have a problem with them, and neither does the rest of the world. In fact the ones with all the problems are invariably the ones that reckon they're worth so much more than they produce.

as I said, 3cm.

[puddytat]

What's good about it? Isn't it just another estimate pretty much the same as the last several years' worth from that source?

A source, I might add that took a pretty sever battering on the credibility front a year or so ago.

It was an attempt at gallows humour.....ya know, like its good news that we're only 1/2 way there....
no doubt its all a conspiracy eh.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Well I can't speak for your money, but mine comes from my clients, who give it to me in exchange for the work I do for them.

Yes, yes I know that's not what you mean, you don't like the fact that someone else is in control of issuing currency and you don't like the way they do it.

But none of that makes a tiny little bit of difference to the fact that it's primary function is as a unit of exchange, a function it manages perfectly well. Nor does it make a jot of difference that a few like to believe that because the evel bankers simply print the stuff without actually "earning" it then that somehow means that they shouldn't have to earn it either. A belief that, in order to protect themselves from blame for their lack, naturally extends as far as an irrational dislike and overwhelming jealousy of those that somehow manage to do OK simply by actually producing shit that others want to buy.

They could print their own money and set up in competition, of course. If their clients could be brought to have the confidence in their business that most do in the existing versions. Or vote for people who say they will arrange things differently, the way they want. They wouldn't , of course, because most of the alternatives simply don't work, but at least it's an option that stands a slim chance of getting their way. Or they could simply admit that their net worth is, in fact a roughly accurate reflection of their value to their client/s. Either way they should probably also give the evel banker slash IMF conspiracy a break, Stephen.

The reason you don't understand the problem is that you don't understand what money is. $1 of paper currency = between $9 and $500 of debt. That is all money is. DEBT