Stupid World

[onearmedbandit]

Your post makes me look at myself, perhaps I'm in the minority, because I believe success should be either celebrated or ignored, attacks on the success doesn't make sense to me? Im finding it hard to process (in my own mind) why I would intentionally knock someone for being successful.

The comparison between NZ thinking and US thinking has been explored before. Basically it can be summed up by in NZ we see someone in a limo and we think 'how can I get them out of that limo' whereas in the US the thinking more tends to be 'how do I get myself into that limo'. Yes a lot of generalisation but we've all seen it before.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Nah, that's me out. For two reasons. Online debates rarely go anywhere, look at the Trump thread for example. Same protagonists, same arguments, nothing gained. Secondly, since husa appeared the taste has soured. I can't respect a person who behaves in the manner he does, as pointed out by another moderator on the forum a while ago, the sort of behaviour where 'life catches up with you and delivers a great big kick to your rear end'. So I'm certainly not going to let myself get engaged in any discussion with him.

Fair enough, When I use Twitter, I tend follow those who share the same or similar beliefs as me, although this is not necessarily good because you tend to be trapped in an echo chamber of thoughts and ideas that needs an alternative opinion

The flip side to this is if you go down the opposite opinion path,there is definitely a chance of mental harm as there version could be quite savage and brutal.

I tend to keep a happy medium, limit my time on Twitter, I think it's about 30 mins a day and I don't read the comments section, just the post or links to my preferred sources.

I joined the kiwibiker platform mainly to be closer aligned with Kiwi biker's and conditions, Unfortunately I was instantly attacked and called a troll for asking dumb newbie questions, I wasn't offended, criticism is much harsher on other platforms... just made me understand, local forums are no different to major international forums.

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah I'm around the same, probably 30mins of twitter most days, and only areas of interest to me like motorcycling, tech and medical interests. And yeah I avoid the comment section too.

[husaberg]

I joined the kiwibiker platform mainly to be closer aligned with Kiwi biker's and conditions, Unfortunately I was instantly attacked and called a troll for asking dumb newbie questions, I wasn't offended, criticism is much harsher on other platforms... just made me understand, local forums are no different to major international forums.

You get called a troll for trolling , but feel free to take it international....its not as if Fraser can figure out you are a troll.

what is hilarious is how often you forget what you have said. like a few days ago when you got confused between Trump and Musk. or

When one is intimated by anothers intelligence, they resort to the "he must be a troll!!" to make up for the lack of intelligence.

You have me all wrong, you don't realise I have increased the I.Q of this forum since joining it .

Now my superior intellect is starting to make you act and pretend to be like me, a standard reaction in the animal kingdom, similar to a submissive puppy dog yearning for its masters attention.
Good boy, well done.

I was instantly attacked and called a troll for asking dumb newbie questions, .

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

You get called a troll for trolling , but feel free to take it international....its not as if Fraser can figure out you are a troll.

what is hilarious is how often you forget what you have said. like a few days ago when you got confused between Trump and Musk. or

My God

You spent how long scrolling through some historical posts?

I think your spending to much time on this forum, and you need to buy a life .

capital " L"

[Berries]

You're.




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[mashman]

It used to be May 5th... but it's ok, getting paid for loss and damage makes it all right ...... Stupid World at its best.

[pritch]

This guy is a bit umm colourful. Well, a lot actually. But he has done some sums. You see what we've been discussing has nothing to do with tall poppy syndrome.
It's about whether you can see a con man coming or you are a mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVj4kZF-Fgk

[onearmedbandit]

While I agree that all three of those people are ego maniacs who sell their worth way past its actual value, before Adam goes chucking out accusations that Elon is terrible at math he should check his own too. He claims that the 140,000 sign-ups for blue tick bough in 1.12 million dollars, a pittance against the 1.5b yearly interest costs. What he fails to point out is that is monthly. Now sure that makes not a great deal of difference (bringing it up to 13.4 million in revenue not allowing for any increase or decrease in subscription numbers) but it is being either disingenuous or just plain stupid. This is why I don't trust anyone's take on things, there's almost always something left out, brushed over, or just plain manipulated to serve a purpose.

And for the record, I firmly believe Elon is mostly full of shit with his promises and self promotion.

[husaberg]

While I agree that all three of those people are ego maniacs who sell their worth way past its actual value, before Adam goes chucking out accusations that Elon is terrible at math he should check his own too. He claims that the 140,000 sign-ups for blue tick bough in 1.12 million dollars, a pittance against the 1.5b yearly interest costs. What he fails to point out is that is monthly. Now sure that makes not a great deal of difference (bringing it up to 13.4 million in revenue not allowing for any increase or decrease in subscription numbers) but it is being either disingenuous or just plain stupid. This is why I don't trust anyone's take on things, there's almost always something left out, brushed over, or just plain manipulated to serve a purpose.

And for the record, I firmly believe Elon is mostly full of shit with his promises and self promotion.

Twitter is according to Musk, losing 4 million dollars a day....that's without the massive loss (his own words)of revenue from the advertised who have suspended advertising over Musk's changes in policies. 90% of twitter revenue comes from advertising
That one 1.5b is only the interest on the 13 billion of debt twitter now has.
i sense a merger with Trumps truth social as that will save face for trump.

[mashman]

Between Kanye showing Adidas employees explicit photos, 'allegedly' of biden jnr from that pesky laptop, and with Musk making noises about releasing internal communications with the wall street journal with regards to the same thing and why twitter 'buried' any attention on the subject, ya gotta wonder, is it house of cards time?

[husaberg]

Between Kanye showing Adidas employees explicit photos, 'allegedly' of biden jnr from that pesky laptop, and with Musk making noises about releasing internal communications with the wall street journal with regards to the same thing and why twitter 'buried' any attention on the subject, ya gotta wonder, is it house of cards time?

So What part position did/does hunter Biden play in the US govt ?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...nal-indictment
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=7d5b047f4f1b

1. Steve Bannon: Trump’s political Svengali was charged with fraud in August 2020 for a fundraising scam tied to raising dollars to build Trump’s much bally-hooed border wall. The allegation, which Bannon has denied, was that he and others involved in the We Build The Wall group used money raised to pay for lavish personal expenses.

2. Tom Barrack: Barrack was charged on seven counts on Tuesday. The allegations, according to the indictment, center on the idea that Barrack used his closeness to Trump to “advance the interests of and provide intelligence to the UAE while simultaneously failing to notify the Attorney General that their actions were taken at the direction of senior UAE officials.” Following Trump’s 2016 victory, Barrack asked UAE officials to provide him with a “wish list” they hoped for from the administration over the first 100 days of Trump’s presidency. “The defendant is charged with acting under the direction or control of the most senior leaders of the U.A.E. over a course of years,” wrote the prosecutors of Barrack.

3. Elliott Broidy: Broidy, a top fundraiser for Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, pleaded guilty in October 2020 to conducted a secret lobbying campaign in exchange for millions of dollars. As CNN’s Kara Scannell wrote at the time of his Broidy’s guilty plea: “Broidy was charged earlier this month with conspiracy for failing to register and disclose his role in a lobbying effort aimed at stopping a criminal investigation into massive fraud at a Malaysian investment fund and advocating for the removal of a Chinese billionaire living in the US.”

4. Michael Cohen: The one-time fixer for Trump, Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison for a series of crimes, most notably secret hush-money payments made during the final months of the 2016 presidential campaign to two women alleging affairs with Trump. The sentencing judge said that Cohen had pleaded guilty to “a veritable smorgasbord” of crimes. Cohen turned informant on Trump and, in sworn testimony in front of Congress in 2019, Cohen called Trump “a racist,” “a conman” and “a cheat” – and insisted that the president was fully aware of the hush-money payments.

5. Michael Flynn: Flynn spent a brief stint as Trump’s national security adviser before being forced to resign after he failed to disclose the depth and breadth of his contacts with Russian officials during the transition. Later that year, Flynn admitted that he had lied to the FBI about his contact with Russia and had also done work for Turkey as an unauthorized lobbyist. In early 2020, Flynn and his legal team sought to have his conviction overturned. That effort was rendered moot when Trump pardoned him in November 2020.

6. Rick Gates: Gates, deputy to the campaign chairman of Trump’s 2016 campaign, pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting Paul Manafort in concealing $75 million in foreign bank accounts. Gates turned informant for the government as part of the broader probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and was sentenced to 45 days in jail.

7. Paul Manafort: Trump’s campaign manager for part of the 2016 presidential campaign, Manafort pleaded guilty in 2018 to on count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice due to attempts to tamper with witnesses – and agreed to cooperate with the ongoing Russia probe. Manafort was sentenced to 47 months in prison in 2019. Trump pardoned Manafort, who wound up serving just under two years in prison, in the final weeks of his presidency.

8. George Nader: An informal foreign policy adviser to Trump’s 2016 campaign, Nader cooperated heavily with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. In early 2020, he pleaded guilty to two counts of sex crimes involving minors.

9. George Papadopoulos: Papadopoulos, a relatively junior adviser to Trump’s campaign, was sentenced to 12 days in prison for lying to investigators about his contacts with individuals tied to Russia. Papadopoulos was defiant about his innocence; “The truth will all be out,” he tweeted the night before reporting to prison. “Not even a prison sentence can stop that momentum.” Trump pardoned Papadopoulos in December 2020.

10. Roger Stone: Stone spent years advising Trump although he was only formally affiliated with the 2016 campaign very briefly. He was convicted in November 2019 for lying to Congress and threatening a witness regarding his efforts for Trump’s campaign. According to the judge, Stone’s actions “led to an inaccurate, incorrect and incomplete report” from the House on Russia, WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign. Stone, and stop me if you’ve heard this one before, was pardoned by Trump in December 2020.

11. Allen Weisselberg: Earlier this month, the longtime chief financial officer for the Trump Organization was charged with tax crimes tied to perks he was given in lieu of salary. “All told, the indictment alleged, Weisselberg evaded taxes on $1.76 million in income over a period beginning in 2005 and concealed for years that he was a resident of New York City, thereby avoiding paying city income taxes,” wrote CNN”s Erica Orden, Kara Scannell and Sonia Moghe. Weisselberg pleaded not guilty. The Trump Organization, which was also indicted and has pleaded not guilty, called the Weisselberg a “pawn in a scorched-earth attempt to harm the former president.”

[Grumph]

I note that crime reporting on Fox News has been reduced 50% since the midterm elections. It would seem that the effort to show the US was an unsafe place under the Democrats didn't go to plan
I anticipate that here, until our elections we'll get ramraids and victim interviews all over TV3. It's quite illuminating to watch and compare our two main news channels. Media bias ? Oh surely not.

[onearmedbandit]

Media bias ? Oh surely not.

Everyone's biased. Every. Single. Person.

[TheDemonLord]

Everyone's biased. Every. Single. Person.

What about a Schizophrenic?