Stupid World

[Scuba_Steve]

Nope. My actual money is actually money, it isn't associated with any debt or attached to any asset. It's debt only so far as the NZRB agrees to honour the bearer etc.

So you made this money yourself? Cause if it's the NZD, USD, Euro or any other internationally recognised currency then it's borrowed. To think anything else is naive & ignorant of how this cash money system works

[Brian d marge]

One to keep the twins happy



Stephen

[mashman]

Bullshit.

And still have to repay the debt.

So you had no choice other than to borrow money? More bullshit.

Why? Coz you said so and I should believe you over people who have spent their entire lives researching such? Not even a contest.

Or fold not giving a shit coz they've got millions in the bank.

Oh there are choices, just not nice ones. Certainly not bullshit ones either.

[mashman]

Nope. My actual money is actually money, it isn't associated with any debt or attached to any asset. It's debt only so far as the NZRB agrees to honour the bearer etc.

Your money was created at interest. It may not have been you that created the original loan, but that money you have still has interest, debt, on it and always will have for as long as a single $ exists. For every $ you have, someone else has the debt i.e. interest. It is an unavoidable consequence of money creation.

[Ocean1]

So you made this money yourself? Cause if it's the NZD, USD, Euro or any other internationally recognised currency then it's borrowed. To think anything else is naive & ignorant of how this cash money system works

Show me who borrowed it.

It may not have been you that created the original loan, but that money you have still has interest, debt, on it and always will have for as long as a single $ exists. For every $ you have, someone else has the debt i.e. interest. It is an unavoidable consequence of money creation.

So for every wealthy person out there there's someone else equally in debt?

Then why is there far, far more money than there is debt?

I know you really really want to believe all them poor people aren't responsible for their lack of funds and that them rich pricks have swindled them out of their share, but you're wrong. On both counts. Again.

[Scuba_Steve]

Show me who borrowed it.

But even if you were shown the whole process start to finish you'd still be in denial I'm sure

[Ocean1]

But even if you were shown the whole process start to finish you'd still be in denial I'm sure

You're sure? So you're not going to be convinced otherwise, eh? Now, who's "in denial"?

If all money is debt then why is there a metric shitload more value in assets than there is total debt?

Isn't it more likely that cash reserves are just that, surplus to existing assets?

[Brian d marge]

You're sure? So you're not going to be convinced otherwise, eh? Now, who's "in denial"?

If all money is debt then why is there a metric shitload more value in assets than there is total debt?

Isn't it more likely that cash reserves are just that, surplus to existing assets?

One has a sneaky suspicion you havent a clue about the current economy

[Akzle]

Show me who borrowed it.

teh governments

So for every wealthy person out there there's someone else equally in debt?

are you actually implying that, or being facetious?

it doesn't work like that because no-one "borrows" anything. they (jews/banks) just invent shit and pretend like you did and charge you for the privilege.

Then why is there far, far more money than there is debt?

there isn't. money=debt. what you're calling "debt" is a fiction based on money, and since money doesn't exist.... 'round we go.

also, if there's more money than debt (in your false understanding of the concepts), how is there debt?




sorry i repped you by accident ocean. go and stub your toe as recompense.

you just. dont. get. it.

money is invented by jews, then sold to governments, with interest. the capital is released, the interest is never printed.

spot the problem with this arrangement.

the money:debt ratio is 1:1.officialcashrateorsomeotherbullshitthey'regoin gtomakeuptomorow.


poor, poor old white guy.

[Ocean1]

One has a sneaky suspicion you havent a clue about the current economy

Then if you answered the questions perhaps I might learn some, eh?

As it is you sound like someone who hasn't got a clue about fuck all and slides into oblique criticism in order to disguise it.

[Brian d marge]

Then if you answered the questions perhaps I might learn some, eh?

As it is you sound like someone who hasn't got a clue about fuck all and slides into oblique criticism in order to disguise it.

I/we have tried many times . . .

But there is a bit of a blockage your end

And forsomeone whom apparently hasnt a clue . . I seem to be right a fair bit .
Snip

As it is you sound like someone who hasn't got a clue about fuck all and slides into oblique criticism in order to disguise it

I think you might be describing yourself there

A case in point was your attempt to use entropy and money . . .which showed a complete lack of both subjects

But do carry on it gives a lot of people hours of enjoyment

[Ocean1]

And forsomeone whom apparently hasnt a clue . . I seem to be right a fair bit .

Well you might be. If your idea of right wasn't completely at odds with the real world.

A case in point was your attempt to use entropy and money . . .which showed a complete lack of both subjects

So you routinely spend money to have shit fail do you?

Actually, don't bother, it sounds quite likely.

[mashman]

So for every wealthy person out there there's someone else equally in debt?

Then why is there far, far more money than there is debt?

I know you really really want to believe all them poor people aren't responsible for their lack of funds and that them rich pricks have swindled them out of their share, but you're wrong. On both counts. Again.

Not equally, but given the amount of money that's been printed, there's a reason that the debt clocks of just about every single nation are all beyond well into the red.

There isn't. It's impossible. It's very simple. The first $ that bore interest required another fraction of a $ to be printed in order to repay the interest. Interest = debt.

I don't want to believe that at all. It's fuckin hard not to I grant you that, but there really is no need for "poor" people and I would have thought, which I did back in the day, that the smart rich people where in that position because they were smart and brought something to the table for mankind. I realised that view is beyond incorrect. If they're so fucking smart, why do they compete?

[Brian d marge]

Well you might be. If your idea of right wasn't completely at odds with the real world.



So you routinely spend money to have shit fail do you?

Actually, don't bother, it sounds quite likely.

Would you like me to hold your hand and walk you though it. .

As my real world and quite a few others seem to be remarkably similar

Not sure if you have noticed a trend here , even here on kb

Now if it were just me . . Then yes ya could have a point but . . . It isnt just me . . . .

[Brian d marge]

So you routinely spend money to have shit fail .

Oh this one is a doozie

Love to read the explaination of this one

We are talking about entropy and money . . .