Stupid World

[pritch]

This isn't particularly stupid but I'm hoping posting this here is OK 'cause we don't have a 'random shit' thread.

Y'all may remember the sinking of the super yacht Bayesian off Sicily last year. The Kiwi skipper was being investigated by Italian police. Things are moving on if slowly.
The skipper, the engineer, and a crew member are still under investigation by the authorities and may yet face charges. Work has now commenced on raising the Bayesian and I've seen comments that the task is dangerous. The vessel is at a depth of thirty metres which doesn't sound terrifying to me but then I'm not a diver. It can't be argued that it's not dangerous, however, as a diver on the job has now died.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ken-superyacht

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On a different note:

India vs Pakistan.

What's everyone's feelings on this?

Apparently Indian fighter pilots dropped 1000 onion bhajis and 500 pakoras on Pakistan....

They said thats just for starters…

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[TheDemonLord]

Would not of happened under biden. As soon as big daddy left the room, the boys started a game of rough and tumble

I will admit - well played.

Let's see if it escalates though.

[TheDemonLord]

Without Wasim Akram Pakistan are shit.

I am going to assume this is a Cricket joke?

[TheDemonLord]

Not really done any research but bombing “terrorists” on someone else territory sounds oh so amercican.

The timing just after USA looking at India trade deals to replace cheap Chinese manufacturing????
Is India about to get a discount of USA military hardware in return for lighting the fuse in region????
On a Geopolitical level a new Pakistan after the dust of a brief war settles with a CIA installed puppet leader would be a massive strategic landing point for American forces to base attacks on Iran/Yemen/China.
Also in background there have been border skirmishes going on for long time between China and India, they’d love to be feeding weapon systems into there to test against China like Ukraine/russia deal.

I mean, that region has been heavily disputed for yonks, I was watching a military analysis of it - apparently the big issue is Pakistan relies on the Indian controlled region of Kashmir for all their fresh water - not to mention Ethnic and religious tensions.

I saw a news article this morning that reports of a 100 jet dogfight lasting for a few hours. Pakistan is claiming to have shotdown 5 Indian jets. I am waiting for verified reporting - but it is interesting.

[pritch]

A long time ago in a galaxy far away my brother worked for an airline. Accordingly he got discounted air travel. Such largesse made holiday planning considerably more interesting for him than for most of us. I was never at all jealous - until he was told by the host airline that travel to Europe for him and his wife would be complimentary.

Anyhoo his holidays tended to be more interesting than most with trips to South America, Europe - and Kashmir. The latter appears to be beautiful place and the higher altitude climate makes it a tourist Mecca. The Indian government will appreciate the cash that brings in. That the population is largely muslim is a minor inconvenience.

There are seperatists mostly financed by Pakistanis living in the UK or the USA. Such expats far removed are always the most fervent supporters of military action. Similar to the Irish "troubles" when US citizens with a great great grandfather from Ireland considered themselves Irish and provided financial support to the IRA.

At a dangerous time such as is curently occurring wise words would normally be forthcoming from world leaders including the USA. Unfortunately wise words in Washington DC are currently almost as rare as rocking horse shit.


Edit: added the word "almost".

[R650R]

Australia just what are you thinking or smoking over there???? Seriously with so much land how does this even happen????

For those short on time, graves of former soldiers have been neglected and forgotten in best cases and in worst some have had concrete pathways and rubbish bins installed on top. Just how does this ever happen????

[sugilite:Me]

10/10 gave me a chuckle. Reminds me funny left right meme seen recently. “Give us all your guns if saves just one life it’s worth it - Ok send back all illegal immigrsnts if ut saves just one life it’s worth it”. So many political arguments can go both ways, guess why it’s so entertaining

Yep, when it comes to thousands of years of my imaginary best friend is better than yours hatred, american president influence is greatly over exaggerated.

I will admit - well played.

Let's see if it escalates though.

I really hope it deescalates and fast.

[TheDemonLord]

I really hope it deescalates and fast.

Agreed.

I am also eagerly awaiting the Dog Fight reports and analysis - from a pure aviation nerd perspective.

[sugilite:Me]

Agreed.

I am also eagerly awaiting the Dog Fight reports and analysis - from a pure aviation nerd perspective.

So far the Chinese weapons appear to be performing very well. Yikes
https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-c...0250511-p5ly67

[TheDemonLord]

So far the Chinese weapons appear to be performing very well. Yikes
https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-c...0250511-p5ly67

I'm still waiting on a good in-depth analysis - but looking at the various claims - they went up against Rafales and Mirage 2000s - both of which (in terms of Air frame) are about 20 years older than the J10. Gen 4 vs Gen 4.5 fighters.

The other interesting thing of note is that India uses a domestically produced Air-to-Air Missile - the Astra. Doesn't look like it has been fired in anger yet.

In terms of Yikes though - If Indian was flying something contemporary - like Hornets or Typhoon 2 or an F35 - with Sidewinders and AMRAAMs - then I would be worried.

Still though - highly interested to see the analysis - e.g. when was the successful missile fired, what range, what tracking mode etc.

I believe Pakistan does have F16s with American Missiles and it wouldn't surprise me if these were responsible for the successful engagement.

Alternatively - it is possible that something similar to when the Iranian F14s took on Iraqi Migs with the Pheonix Missile - fired from well over the horizon - apparently the PL-15 has a very long range - so who knows.

[pritch]

Australia just what are you thinking or smoking over there???? Seriously with so much land how does this even happen????

Last year I was involved in a meeting with the local Council and a representative of the company that manufactures the grave markers for war cemeteries. The council does a great job but there are a couple of problems. In times past the family had to pay for a marker. Some families could not pay, or did not want to, so some graves are unmarked. Work is being undertaken to correct that. At a period of government penny pinching, yeah another one, it was decided to make the headstones of terrazzo rather than stone. These are not aging well and may need replacing with stone at some point.

The people running that cemetery in WA need a boot up the arse. Evidently they just don't care. That TV programme might make something happen but the cemetery spokesman didn't inspire confidence.

I haven't heard anybody use the expression "boil your piss" on Kiwi TV. Yet.

[Pursang]

Not the usual clickbait crap. Worth a bit of your time.

[pritch]

Not the usual clickbait crap. Worth a bit of your time.

Excellent. I had previously been exasperated by people who otherwise appeared reasonably intelligent but held stupid views. Not just on KB either. A married couple I know, both bright people with qualifications, but they believe every Trump utterance unquestioningly. I'd read that stupidity can be in the nature of a moral choice but that didn't fully answer my questions.

The "tribalism" factor is a good explanation for some of it. That goes a long way to explain the conspiracy theorists who consider they are in the know so they feel superior to the "sheeple" when in fact it is they who are stupid.

Anyhoo thanks.

[Katman]

Excellent. I had previously been exasperated by people who otherwise appeared reasonably intelligent but held stupid views. Not just on KB either. A married couple I know, both bright people with qualifications, but they believe every Trump utterance unquestioningly. I'd read that stupidity can be in the nature of a moral choice but that didn't fully answer my questions.

The "tribalism" factor is a good explanation for some of it. That goes a long way to explain the conspiracy theorists who consider they are in the know so they feel superior to the "sheeple" when in fact it is they who are stupid.

Anyhoo thanks.

And yet you completely miss the irony that the video could just as easily be describing you and your entrenched beliefs.