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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    There is strong competition but this is the most stupid thing I've read this week. A man spent over forty years in prison having been convicted of a murder the prosecutors knew he did not commit. They had concealed evidence because they wanted the win. As he was being released from prison because his conviction had been vacated he was grabbed by ICE because he was the subject of a deportation order. The deportation order that had been issued long ago because of the conviction which has now been vacated.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...im/ar-AA1OhhiS
    Buried right at the bottom of the article:

    Because Subu was never formally naturalized, his earlier drug conviction technically makes him deportable under U.S. immigration law.
    Now - having read the full article, this is a bit of a shit situation, one where I actually somewhat side with Subu - but no one disagrees that he had a Drug Conviction and that he was guilty of it - which would make the deportation lawful, regardless of the Murder conviction being overturned.
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    In Britain the BBC continues to be big news although much of the news is fake. Following the resignation of Tim Davey the BBC is being accused of left wing bias. That is laughable. Davey was a member and office holder of the Tory party and he ran for Parliament as a Tory. Most of the top people at the BBC were appointed by Boris Johnson or his predecessors in the Tory party.

    Anybody at the BBC who does display left wing bias tends to be dealt with. Ask Gary Lineker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    In Britain the BBC continues to be big news although much of the news is fake. Following the resignation of Tim Davey the BBC is being accused of left wing bias. That is laughable. Davey was a member and office holder of the Tory party and he ran for Parliament as a Tory. Most of the top people at the BBC were appointed by Boris Johnson or his predecessors in the Tory party.

    Anybody at the BBC who does display left wing bias tends to be dealt with. Ask Gary Lineker.
    The BBC has always had a left-wing bias, this has been a sentiment echo'd for many years - most recently in their Brexit coverage and beyond.

    There might be a few Tories (who at this point have adopted every policy position of Blairism) at the top, but the Journalists, Editors etc. are all Left-leaning, University educated metropoliton types.
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    I was just reading an article yesterday that cited other articles, stats etc that showed the BBC being accused by both the left and the right of bias towards the other side - sounds like they have the balance about right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I was just reading an article yesterday that cited other articles, stats etc that showed the BBC being accused by both the left and the right of bias towards the other side - sounds like they have the balance about right to me.
    As one such example

    And another

    And another - this one is good because it shows history

    The people that complain that the BBC are right wing are the same type of people that say NZ's Labour Party is centre Right (yes, I have heard that one...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    As one such example

    And another

    And another - this one is good because it shows history

    The people that complain that the BBC are right wing are the same type of people that say NZ's Labour Party is centre Right (yes, I have heard that one...)
    I tried several AI's and they all say pretty much the same thing. Here is musks grok take on it. In this case I will accept the analysis from AI's over someone that blames near every woe on the planet on the left. Consequences of such an obvious imbalance I'm afraid.

    "The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is a publicly funded broadcaster required by its charter to maintain impartiality and balance in its reporting. It is not officially aligned with any political party or ideology, and it strives to represent a range of viewpoints.
    That said, perceptions of bias vary widely:

    Critics on the right (e.g., some Conservative Party figures, certain UK tabloids like The Daily Mail, or commentators like Nigel Farage) often accuse the BBC of a left-leaning or "liberal metropolitan" bias, particularly on issues like immigration, climate change, Brexit, and cultural topics. They point to examples such as Question Time audience selection, interviewer questioning styles, or coverage of events like the 2016 EU referendum.
    Critics on the left (e.g., Labour Party supporters, The Guardian, or groups like Momentum) frequently argue the BBC has a right-leaning or establishment bias, especially in its deference to government sources, economic reporting, or handling of stories involving the monarchy, Israel/Palestine, or trade unions. Historical examples include coverage of the Iraq War dossier or austerity policies under Conservative governments.

    Independent analyses (e.g., from Cardiff University's journalism studies or the Reuters Institute) generally find the BBC's output to be centrist overall, with occasional imbalances depending on the topic or era, but no systematic partisan slant. Viewer surveys (like YouGov polls) show the British public largely trusts the BBC more than partisan outlets, though trust has declined in recent years amid broader media polarization.
    In short: The BBC aims for neutrality and is closer to the center than explicitly left- or right-wing outlets (e.g., compared to The Guardian on the left or The Telegraph on the right). Accusations of bias often reflect the accuser's own political position more than objective reality. For the most accurate view, cross-reference BBC stories with multiple sources."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I tried several AI's and they all say pretty much the same thing. Here is musks grok take on it. In this case I will accept the analysis from AI's over someone that blames near every woe on the planet on the left. Consequences of such an obvious imbalance I'm afraid.
    Well hold up - Those 3 sources aren't my analysis, are they? In almost every Media Bias ranking website - the BBC consistently scores Centre to Centre Left overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Critics on the left (e.g., Labour Party supporters, The Guardian, or groups like Momentum) frequently argue the BBC has a right-leaning or establishment bias, especially in its deference to government sources, economic reporting, or handling of stories involving the monarchy, Israel/Palestine, or trade unions. Historical examples include coverage of the Iraq War dossier or austerity policies under Conservative governments.
    The UK Labour Party, the Guardian or Momentum... Let's look at the Wikipedia entry for Momentum

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum_(organisation) - the Section title "Early Infiltration from the Far Left" in particular.

    So let's re-write that sentence:

    "Communists argue that anything that isn't Communism is Right-leaning"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    The people that complain that the BBC are right wing are the same type of people that say NZ's Labour Party is centre Right (yes, I have heard that one...)
    Prophetic, wasn't I...

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Independent analyses (e.g., from Cardiff University's journalism studies or the Reuters Institute) generally find the BBC's output to be centrist overall, with occasional imbalances depending on the topic or era, but no systematic partisan slant. Viewer surveys (like YouGov polls) show the British public largely trusts the BBC more than partisan outlets, though trust has declined in recent years amid broader media polarization.
    In short: The BBC aims for neutrality and is closer to the center than explicitly left- or right-wing outlets (e.g., compared to The Guardian on the left or The Telegraph on the right). Accusations of bias often reflect the accuser's own political position more than objective reality. For the most accurate view, cross-reference BBC stories with multiple sources."[/I][/B]
    Now, to give AI it's due - Generally the BBC's output is mostly centrist. The problem is that for social issues, it leans left - and as AI Notes - the trust has declined in recent years - the watershed moment being Brexit.

    It just so happens though that the reporting on Social Issues is exactly where that Bias shows up.
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