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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    20/20 foresight.
    the it for tat isn't really cricket old chap, the Iranian one was detained over it being suspected in breaching an EU embargo
    the Pommy one was allegedly taken in international waters. and or non Iranian waters (oman) just to make a point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    20/20 foresight.

    Yes, I rather liked the UK stance that they took their action in
    response to a breach of EU sanctions - even though Iran is not a
    member of the EU, and the tanker destination (of Syria) has been
    disputed.

    But it appears Iran decided that if the Brits can highjack a tanker,
    then so can it.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/464693-uk-war-iran-tankers/

    And the UK responded with Jeremy Hunt sticking his fingers in his ears
    (doing his best "la-la-la, I can't hear you" imitation) and Boris doing
    his "what the f#$k just happened" impression. [ Edit: Sadly, RT has
    since replaced the original photographs ]

    Well, that didn't quite go to plan, did it?. What a pair of tankers !

    Meanwhile, the UK press - diligent as always - has managed to find
    the "obligatory" Russian involvement.

    https://southfront.org/uk-media-foun...izure-by-iran/

    Though it is still unclear whether they will finally go for "the UK tanker
    was in Omani waters" story, or "the Russians spoofed the tanker GPS,
    so it drifted into Iranian waters" story.

    Meanwhile, this week, the UK gets ready for the election of Boris the
    Great.

    I have to admit I thought it strange at first to see a photo of Boris
    holding up a piece of hair-wear ("Is that a Kipper I See before Me?")
    before I re-read the photo title and realised it was a shrink-wrapped
    fish. You have to read the article ....

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/euro...son-cusp-power

    And in anticipation of this great event, some of his fellow Conservative
    members ("members", that is the right word, isn't it?) have been beating
    upon a path to his door - to offer their resignation notice.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9014181.html

    It just gets better and better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    the it for tat isn't really cricket old chap, the Iranian one was detained over it being suspected in breaching an EU embargo
    the Pommy one was allegedly taken in international waters. and or non Iranian waters (oman) just to make a point.
    You're overthinking it. The Brits took one of theirs so they'll take a Brit one. Or several.

    My sympathies are currently with Iran. They are sitting at home minding their own business. They are not sailing up and down the US coast, nor have they surrounded the US with military bases.

    Trump really doesn't want to get involved in Iran, or any other new war. He wants to get out of the ones the US is in, but he has manic hawks like Bolton and Pompeo in his ear all day, and they have both wanted to bomb Iran for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    You're overthinking it. The Brits took one of theirs so they'll take a Brit one. Or several.

    My sympathies are currently with Iran. They are sitting at home minding their own business. They are not sailing up and down the US coast, nor have they surrounded the US with military bases.

    Trump really doesn't want to get involved in Iran, or any other new war. He wants to get out of the ones the US is in, but he has manic hawks like Bolton and Pompeo in his ear all day, and they have both wanted to bomb Iran for decades.
    I have sympathies with the Iranians but as like the USA what the majority of the people want and belive may not be what their government suggests.
    Both are playing a dangerous game of brinkmanship with eath other just as.
    Trumps a buffoon i doubt he has any long term strategy other than trying to get reelected and feather his nest and his mates nests.



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    What a Busy Week

    Some weeks it's all quiet on the news front. But not this week.

    Where do you start ? Well, with a good news story, of course.

    Conservative Leader Elected
    Yes, you guessed it. Boris got the job. And from the left to the
    right, everyone (well, almost everyone) was overjoyed.

    A quick survey of a few websites this morning:

    Ivanka showed her time spent at the G20 hadn't been wasted,
    and sent Daddy's best wishes:

    https://www.rt.com/news/464849-ivank...on-johnson-pm/

    There were one or two naysayers, of course. All to be expected:

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/464839-bori...tish-problems/
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ry-london-dude

    But if you wanted just a "quick summary", well, this is for you.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/23/207070...eader-election

    I'd completely forgotten all about the zipline incident. Zipline,
    I said, not zipper.

    You know, the one where Boris ended up suspended in mid-air,
    not knowing where to turn or how to get down.

    But after celebrating the anniversary of the moon landing, I do
    hope that Boris is not going to put himself in charge of the UK
    "moon attempt". Though he probably has the cheeks for it.


    Moving on to international news now.

    Afghanistan

    Yes, Don, I know that I said "use big numbers" when you're making
    threats, but they have to be credible. I mean, 10 million. Out of
    a population of 35 million.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201907...-10mln-people/

    How did you expect to accomplish that? Use nuclear weapons?

    Oh !

    Does that mean "leveling the playing field" for peace involves
    levelling all the other players as well ?

    Or is this what "winning a war" now means in "neocon speak" ?

    Well, I've read the same approach worked with the Japanese
    back in 1945. And they've been pretty quiet on the Asian front
    for the past 70 years.

    Or were you just subtly trying to imply "We can leave in peace"
    or "we can leave it in pieces".

    Twitter diplomacy is so hard to decipher, with only 140 characters.

    Pakistan

    Imran Kahn even went to the White House to join in the discussions
    on Afghanistan.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...193747363.html

    Finally the US has realised that Pakistan is an important factor in the
    "quest for peace". All those "nasty words" exchanged last year seem
    to have been forgotten (or sent to the media archives, at least).

    And if the US plans to remove not only all its troops but its weapons
    and equipment as well, then a land route out of Afghanistan would be
    quite handy.

    This is, if you assume the US actually has an intention of leaving
    Afghanistan.

    Somehow, leaving Afghanistan after 19 years would still sound like
    defeat to me. Just like Vietnam.

    And look what it did for Gerald Ford's re-election prospects in 1976.
    Look how that turned out. The US ended up with a Democrat (Jimmy
    Carter).

    Maybe the US will leave just a "small task force" (say 3 to 4 thousand
    "peace keepers") behind in Afghanistan.

    Just like in Iraq. We all know how well that has worked out.

    Mind you, if I was Imran, I wouldn't be overly happy about the idea of
    having large numbers of US troops and weapons "transiting my country".

    I mean, they might just decide to stay - and bring "peace and democracy"
    to Pakistan as well.

    Yes, the "peace doves" might say "coo, coo", but the US might instead
    hear "coup, coup".

    I'm sure that Modi would be all for it.

    Yes, I know Modi said that "he wasn't interested" in the US becoming
    involved in India - Pakistan discussions over Kashmir, but I'm sure that
    was all just for "public consumption". He didn't really mean it.

    He'd warm up to the idea once it was a fait d'accompli. Imagine how it
    would look to his voters if he could say "I've solved the Pakistan problem".

    And it would help put an end to that silly Chinese CPEC idea, once and
    for all.

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/03/18...lobal-village/

    Not to mention "putting the wind" up the Iranians next door. Teach them
    to meddle in our Gulf. Heh, heh, heh.

    I can't see a downside to it myself. I'm surprised that John Boy hasn't
    mentioned it already.

    Venezuela

    Yes, I said that it's been a busy week.

    Well, we threatened them yet again that we would "turn their lights
    out" as well, and indeed we did. Just as promised.

    https://www.rt.com/news/464803-venez...-power-outage/


    And it's only Wednesday.

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    Boris Makes New Appointments

    Can't keep a good man down:

    https://www.rt.com/uk/465076-gavin-w...ris-education/

    Obviously didn't bury him deep enough.

    Maybe Boris thinks that Gazza will be an inspirational message
    to England's youth. "Energising" is the word I think he used
    in his acceptance speech.

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    V for Victory

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...p-before-talks

    Boris, I know you're seeking to do your best Churchill impression,
    but somehow, I don't think you'll be making a two-finger "V for
    Victory" sign anytime soon.

    Think you're more likely to be shown a different two-finger sign.

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    The Bromance is Over

    [ Overheard in the White House ]

    Well, Don, that was a short bromance. Just as well that you
    still have Kim.

    But I guess that the signs were there.

    First, that French oak tree we planted in the White House
    grounds. It turned up its toes back in June.

    https://www.newsweek.com/white-house...macron-1443077

    Yes, I know that you did your best and regularly "showered
    it with praise" from the balcony.

    But now that uppity little Frenchman dares to levy taxes on
    our technology companies.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...after-election

    Who does he think that he is ? How dare they meddle with our
    companies ?

    Next, the Germans will pick up on the idea. And then, where
    will we be ?

    Time to meddle with some of their data. Whose data did they
    think it was, anyway ?

    And their elections. Meddle with their elections !

    Say it was the Russians, doing a trial run for 2020.

    Yes, I know the Europeans have just had their elections, but
    no-one is going to fact check. Trust me.

    Oh, and tell them to ramp up their Russian sanctions, while
    they are at it.

    Buzzards !

    Speaking of which, I see that Chinese is on the menu again this
    coming week, with trade talks due to resume again on Tuesday.

    Don, that wee comment you made, "the US and China might not
    sign a trade deal before the 2020 election". That worries me.

    What ?

    But Don, you said that "trade wars were easy", and that you
    had them by the .... , and all you had to do was to squeeze
    their pips some more.

    Don, you're not going soft on me, are you ? You know that our
    donors wouldn't like to hear that message.

    Throw in a few more tariffs, man. Yes, the other $300 billion.

    And lock out a few more Chinese technology companies, just
    for good measure.

    What are you waiting for ?

    Oh, and threaten them with being "currency manipulators".

    Look, it's not currency manipulation when we do it, because
    it's our dollar. Besides, we call it "stabilisation".

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/07/05...on-is-suicide/

    Look, we both know it's BS, but the "home team" only listens
    to CNN. What do they know ?

    They all think the Chinese are wearing the cost of the higher
    tariff rates as it is. Who said you can't fool them all the time ?

    You could always threaten to "take them to the WTO", and tell
    the WTO to "get tough" on them.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...n-stop-lenient

    Yes, we both know the WTO is backlogged and can't adjudicate
    its current case load (because we won't approve any new judges
    in order to make a quorum).

    And that they might end up throwing out our cases because our
    claims are tenuous at best.

    A bit like Bob Mueller's Russiagate report. Poor old buzzard -
    you almost feel sorry for him.

    I know. Threaten to remove their "developing nation" status.

    Yes, I know we can't do that, but threaten to do it anyway.
    The "home team" will lap it up.

    Yes, I know most of our "friends" have "developing nation"
    status as well. Just get Mike to have a quiet word with them
    beforehand.

    And lastly, while I remember, please get them to take down
    that fake Presidential seal:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49116539

    Yes, you have a good week-end too. Another busy week
    coming up. You can't play golf all the time.

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    Lobbyist Required

    Back in March, Trump sent Congress on Monday a record $4.75 trillion budget plan
    that called for increased military spending - coupled with sharp cuts to domestic
    programs like education and environmental protection - for the 2020 fiscal year.

    And just this last week, the Democrats agreed to an increase in the debt ceiling.
    Subject of course to both main parties getting some "wins". Have to look after
    those "special interests".

    https://truthout.org/articles/trump-...yde-amendment/

    But I don't see any actual progress on one of the items that will slowly make
    itself felt over the coming years : Internal Infrastructure.

    It's not that it's a surprise, having been flagged for at least the past 20 years.

    https://www.infrastructurereportcard...-card-history/

    Don even made it a goal of his first "100 Days" to develop and to produce an
    infrastructure plan. He even came up with a budget number ($1.5 trillion).

    But something happened, in that federal funding was only going to provide $200
    billion of that $1.5 trillion amount - and the rest was to be funded by state and
    local governments, foreign borrowing and (you guessed it) private capital.

    Needless to say (but I will), various state and local governments were upset,
    as they would have to provide their contribution from funds already allocated
    to other activities.

    Then Don turned around to criticise his own plan:

    https://www.alternet.org/2019/04/tha...hetic-failure/

    and then the Democrats (because they were harassing him):

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019...n-nothing.html

    Amazingly enough, the exact same amount ($1.5 trillion) had been budgetted
    and approved earlier - but allocated between reduction in corporate taxes and
    increased military spending.

    Guess it just shows that the US voter needs a better lobby group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Guess it just shows that the US voter needs a better lobby group.
    True enough but:-

    The US has got any amount of excellent "extremely well financed" effective lobby groups! - Problem is they are virtually "all" plugging for Israel! -

    Time to genuinely re-evaluate value for money that the US taxpayers (unknowingly?) spend on "Israel". -
    "The very essence of the banking industry; to make us all, (whether we be nations or individuals), slaves to debt!" ... is it working for them yet?

    Debt explained: http://www.positivemoney.org/issues/debt/

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    What To Do Today

    Another beautiful day in the Capital today.

    Breakfast (tick)
    Shower and shave (tick)
    Washed the dishes (tick)
    Made the bed (tick)
    Done the washing (tick)
    A quick read of the world news (tick)

    All by 10:30am. Almost a PB.

    The US
    -Don's talking about the urgent need for improved rat catchers.
    or maybe I misread that article.
    -Pelosi and Nadler pretending to talk about impeachment (again).
    While "racing" to beat the "recess break" deadline (think we call
    it "school holidays" over here).

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...chment-1437530
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...idence-impeach

    The UK
    -Boris pretending to threaten the EU with withdrawal, while
    quietly preparing to call a snap election. You crafty devil.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-say-ministers
    https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/econo...kWAAy0MA6UVeQ/
    https://www.apnews.com/db77a1d5827a47fe8b99210db64a744a

    -Boris sent another ship to the Persian Gulf (to make sure
    they don't misplace any more tankers). France and Germany
    have each offered a dinghy, while Mike Pompeo effectively
    said "that while you're special, you're on your own" .

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49144717
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...y-mission-gulf
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lf-says-pompeo

    China

    -Trade talks (and fireworks) do not restart until tomorrow.

    Middle East

    -Jared has rarked up the neighbours again, while Bibi might
    face some more pushback.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/midd...-bells-ringing
    https://www.rt.com/newsline/465241-a...ael-elections/

    BRICS

    -Just some old news (with the lights back on in Caracas, and a
    US spy plane feeling "threatened" by a Venezuelan fighter jet).
    Gosh, those US spy planes are so "sensitive". Must be all those
    electronics.

    https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/...tage-in-hours/

    http://valdaiclub.com/a/highlights/m...-of-the-brics/


    Well, it seems like everything is under control for the time being.

    Think that I'll go out and wash the car. And the Honda as well.

    And since it's such a lovely day, I might even take the Honda for
    a blast up over the Rimutakas.

    Could even wind up a motorist or two with a "fast overtaking
    manoeuvre" (just to keep my eye in). It's important to keep
    practicing those riding skills. Might even throw in a yellow
    line or two, if the fancy takes me.

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    Christchurch

    You lucky devils. Who knew that reclaimed swampland could have
    so much economic value ?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/114...-to-the-people

    And you get to pay approx $25 mil a year for the next 30 years
    for the privilege as well.

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    Brexit

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nion-2021.html

    Boris, you old fox.

    Tell them that you're going to "do Brexit" by October 31 - and then "hint"
    that the UK will actually remain in the Customs Union and the EU for up to
    another two years.

    Out of the EU in word, but not in deed. And leaving you time to deal with
    Labour and win an election, er, "negotiate a more favourable EU deal".

    And, of course, the EU will play along with that plan.

    Brilliant ! A master stroke. No wonder that they put you in charge of the
    hen house.

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    Boris - the British Trump? - - like all "go forward" western politicians, completely compromised and totally controllable. - (He who pays the piper calls the tune!) -
    "The very essence of the banking industry; to make us all, (whether we be nations or individuals), slaves to debt!" ... is it working for them yet?

    Debt explained: http://www.positivemoney.org/issues/debt/

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    Some-one's Going to Pay

    There's just no respect (or fear) being shown these days.

    First, the US-China trade talks collapse within a day:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...y-negotiations

    Guess that Don's recent tweets (just prior to the resumption
    of talks) didn't have the desired effect.

    And now the Iranians have started to mock her Madge:

    https://www.rt.com/news/465485-iran-...een-pirate-uk/

    She will not be pleased. Mock the UK politicians by all means.

    And Don, just to show that they haven't forgotten you:

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/...pping-universe

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