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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    My bad, soz.

    The private lives of the rich and famous. And their fixers.

    Time will tell how much is found out and publicized, Maxwell claims she has an extensive DVD collection.
    ZERO will be released. The “cleaners” will have already been in and taken care of that. The people operating at that level would likely have multiple intertwined levels of blackmail. Stop for a minute and think about the money and contacts those people have.
    Also the person whose going to release the “ insurance” just imagine the danger they place themselves in, could they truely trust which ever journalist or cop they pick not to also be part of the global cabal...?????
    Releasing such material only further affirms her guilt by association and ruins any chance of future appeals over process or technicality’s to reduce sentence.
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    NZ China Relations

    10 June - China must be Countered

    https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...-effort-needed

    14 June - NZ and China can Work Together

    http://www.china.org.cn/world/2022-0...t_78268482.htm

    27 June - NZ to Attend NATO Conference

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/much-ado-...attends-summit

    30 June - Arden Speech at NATO Conference

    https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...s-nato-chinas?
    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/p...s-nato-session

    Wonder how the Chinese perceive the situation ? And NZ ?

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1269397.shtml

    or the full version (if you have time to read it):
    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1269391.shtml

    While NZ may have an updated FTA with China, will our recent action lead to improved trade with China ?

    [Edit 01.07.2022]

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1269282.shtml
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...eness-wrong-2/

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    G7 and NATO Summits

    It's always good to watch global politics (and democracy) in action, so I was quite interested to see what came out of this year’s G7 summit (and also see what else had been happening around the time of the summit).

    It used to be a G8 summit (up until 2014), but after Putin annexed Crimea (in response to the 2014 Ukraine coup), Russia was given the heave-ho. And given the current situation in Ukraine, well, he was always going to be a no-show this year.

    Germany

    Germany was chairing the G7 this year, so it (given usual German organisational ability) was tasked with organising and running the G7 summit this time. On time. And at a nice schloss in the Bavarian Alps, where they could all get royally schlossed.

    https://www.deutschland.de/en/G7-at-...G7-Summit-2022

    There was the to-be-expected discussion on (i) more weapons to Ukraine (ii) restrictions on gold sales by Russia (iii) imposing of price caps on sales of Russian gas. Despite the obvious challenges inherent in achieving all three goals.

    There was even a mention of the German "Climate Club". At first, I thought this was some reference to naked hiking or sun-bathing (given the German passion for doing so), but no, it was all about "green projects" and the need for commitment to co-ordinated climate policy and action. Just as well they held the summit during the middle of Summer - while it was nice and warm - and there were no concerns about a lack of gas (or use of coal).

    https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf...it-in-germany/

    United States of America

    I'm not quite sure what Joe Biden made of the G7 summit. Or whether he registered what country he was in. He was probably just happy that all the attendees largely played well together, gave a sense of political unity, and were all committed to “more arms to Ukraine”, “an enhanced NATO”, and “more EU spending on NATO”.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/30/p...y-3/index.html

    And by the time he arrived home, well, it was only a few days until July 4 (US Independence Day) and celebration of the US Declaration of Independence. And more fire-works (as if there weren’t already enough at home).

    United Kingdom

    Given that the Germans and the Poles are not on such cordial terms at the moment (it’s a tradition), I see that Boris Johnson has been delegated responsibility for the Intermarium project (and that the UK will be working with Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic states on their ongoing security).

    Boris seemed to enjoy himself immensely during the summit, and was all smiles during the photo ops. Probably just as well, given the economic situation and the Northern Ireland Brexit border issue awaiting him at home.

    I did hear from a completely unreliable source that Boris and the Ukrainian chap (name begins with Z) did a great comedy duo one evening. Though I understand it was slightly marred when the Ukrainian chap was mis-translated at one stage ("welcoming" was mis-translated as "incoming"), and they all dived under their desk, started counting their rosary beads and kissing each other's ar$e (more than usual). Probably not surprising given Putin's absence this year. No doubt they all had a good (nervous) laugh about it afterwards.

    That was possibly around the same time that Boris and Justin had been mocking Putin, with each offering to strip off down to their waist and show off their pecs (that's not a picture I want to see). Though I suspect it was more to show off their "non-toxic masculinity", and to reassure the female leaders of the two Scandinavian countries (Sweden and Finland) intent on joining NATO.

    It was probably just as well that separately, UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss was doing her best "Margaret Thatcher" impression and staying on message:

    https://ok.ru/video/3837571173062 [video might take a few seconds to load and start playing - turn volume on]

    Though, when the Argentinian President later brought up the subject of Thatcher and the Malvinas (Falklands) with Boris at the G7, I understand the conversation was rather short. I would not be too surprised if Fernandez has a conversation with Putin at the next BRICS conference (to get some ideas how best to reclaim the Malvinas).

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2111476.html

    France
    Boris Johnson and Emmanuel Macron were all smiles in each other's company, and were busy patting each other on the back. Probably each searching for a soft spot to stick the knife in. Both indicated an opportunity to "turn the tide", though I struggle to see how these two ever hope to succeed (given Danish king Canute's past failure to achieve that goal).

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/g7-s...ct-now-3101977

    While the G7 summit was being staged, several other activities were also being conducted in parallel. All very interesting in their own way.

    1.Sweden and Norway

    Representatives from both Sweden and Norway (along with NATO S-G Jens Stoltenberg) were busy in discussion – and successful in reaching agreement with Turkey - on the terms of Turkey's approval of their entry to the NATO club. It apparently all hinged around the quality of the coffee, and on working out what sacrifices had to be made (or should I say, who has to be sacrificed).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ee-break-reset
    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/202206..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    Meanwhile, if Russia had ever believed Turkey would continue to deny Sweden and Finland access to NATO, then Erdogan’s latest action (quite apart from supplying UAV’s to Ukraine) will have reinforced their view of his reliability as a political ally.

    2.The Baltics, the EC and NATO

    Lithuania supposedly decided to observe EU sanctions, and to deny Russia access to its Kalingrad enclave on the Baltic Sea (for the supply of certain goods). Russia has responded only by publicly reiterating its right of overland access (under treaty, via Belarus and Lithuania), and simply threatened economic repercussions if land access continued to be denied.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...-consequences/

    Lithuania continued to say that it was only “doing what it had been told” by the EU (EC), which has now after one week decided to reconsider and to back down. Especially after Germany – whose NATO contingent is located in and responsible for “defending” Lithuania – also reconsidered its current position.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...issiles-baltic

    Meanwhile, all the Baltic states have learned a valuable lesson. That if Russia had acted militarily to re-establish contact via a land bridge (conducting a land invasion via Belarus and the Suwalki Gap) – and a conventional land war with NATO forces had then ensued, NATO command in Brussels does not have the necessary military resources to defend them – but more important, nor do they have the intention of “defending” them.

    The Baltic states would first have to fight on their own (“smoke and burn”), until which point NATO – once it has assembled sufficient western forces and resources – could then “come to their rescue and liberate them.” Or what’s left of them. Maybe. Food for thought.

    3.Australia

    Australia does NATO:

    https://johnmenadue.com/mr-albanese-...o-global-nato/

    I see that following the G7, Emannuel Macron has also spent some time with the new Australian PM, and that they have patched up their earlier little disagreement over the (non-) purchase of French submarines.

    https://apnews.com/article/france-pa...0eb9944f002bb9

    4.New Zealand

    Jacinda Ardern did several rousing speeches (at the G7, then to Chatham House in the UK), saying all the right words and reconfirming the ongoing supply of NZ military resources in the defence of Ukraine.

    I suppose that it might be too late to send a NZ frigate through the Taiwan strait, as a way of helping China commemorate Hong Kong’s 25th anniversary under Chinese rule. Assuming that we have one that is currently sea-worthy. Maybe just a patrol boat?.

    Life just gets more and more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    It's always good to watch global politics (and democracy) in action, so I was quite interested to see what came out of this year’s G7 summit (and also see what else had been happening around the time of the summit).

    It used to be a G8 summit (up until 2014), but after Putin annexed Crimea (in response to the 2014 Ukraine coup), Russia was given the heave-ho. And given the current situation in Ukraine, well, he was always going to be a no-show this year.

    Germany

    Germany was chairing the G7 this year, so it (given usual German organisational ability) was tasked with organising and running the G7 summit this time. On time. And at a nice schloss in the Bavarian Alps, where they could all get royally schlossed.

    https://www.deutschland.de/en/G7-at-...G7-Summit-2022

    There was the to-be-expected discussion on (i) more weapons to Ukraine (ii) restrictions on gold sales by Russia (iii) imposing of price caps on sales of Russian gas. Despite the obvious challenges inherent in achieving all three goals.

    There was even a mention of the German "Climate Club". At first, I thought this was some reference to naked hiking or sun-bathing (given the German passion for doing so), but no, it was all about "green projects" and the need for commitment to co-ordinated climate policy and action. Just as well they held the summit during the middle of Summer - while it was nice and warm - and there were no concerns about a lack of gas (or use of coal).

    https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf...it-in-germany/

    United States of America

    I'm not quite sure what Joe Biden made of the G7 summit. Or whether he registered what country he was in. He was probably just happy that all the attendees largely played well together, gave a sense of political unity, and were all committed to “more arms to Ukraine”, “an enhanced NATO”, and “more EU spending on NATO”.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/30/p...y-3/index.html

    And by the time he arrived home, well, it was only a few days until July 4 (US Independence Day) and celebration of the US Declaration of Independence. And more fire-works (as if there weren’t already enough at home).

    United Kingdom

    Given that the Germans and the Poles are not on such cordial terms at the moment (it’s a tradition), I see that Boris Johnson has been delegated responsibility for the Intermarium project (and that the UK will be working with Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic states on their ongoing security).

    Boris seemed to enjoy himself immensely during the summit, and was all smiles during the photo ops. Probably just as well, given the economic situation and the Northern Ireland Brexit border issue awaiting him at home.

    I did hear from a completely unreliable source that Boris and the Ukrainian chap (name begins with Z) did a great comedy duo one evening. Though I understand it was slightly marred when the Ukrainian chap was mis-translated at one stage ("welcoming" was mis-translated as "incoming"), and they all dived under their desk, started counting their rosary beads and kissing each other's ar$e (more than usual). Probably not surprising given Putin's absence this year. No doubt they all had a good (nervous) laugh about it afterwards.

    That was possibly around the same time that Boris and Justin had been mocking Putin, with each offering to strip off down to their waist and show off their pecs (that's not a picture I want to see). Though I suspect it was more to show off their "non-toxic masculinity", and to reassure the female leaders of the two Scandinavian countries (Sweden and Finland) intent on joining NATO.

    It was probably just as well that separately, UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss was doing her best "Margaret Thatcher" impression and staying on message:

    https://ok.ru/video/3837571173062 [video might take a few seconds to load and start playing - turn volume on]

    Though, when the Argentinian President later brought up the subject of Thatcher and the Malvinas (Falklands) with Boris at the G7, I understand the conversation was rather short. I would not be too surprised if Fernandez has a conversation with Putin at the next BRICS conference (to get some ideas how best to reclaim the Malvinas).

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2111476.html

    France
    Boris Johnson and Emmanuel Macron were all smiles in each other's company, and were busy patting each other on the back. Probably each searching for a soft spot to stick the knife in. Both indicated an opportunity to "turn the tide", though I struggle to see how these two ever hope to succeed (given Danish king Canute's past failure to achieve that goal).

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/g7-s...ct-now-3101977

    While the G7 summit was being staged, several other activities were also being conducted in parallel. All very interesting in their own way.

    1.Sweden and Norway

    Representatives from both Sweden and Norway (along with NATO S-G Jens Stoltenberg) were busy in discussion – and successful in reaching agreement with Turkey - on the terms of Turkey's approval of their entry to the NATO club. It apparently all hinged around the quality of the coffee, and on working out what sacrifices had to be made (or should I say, who has to be sacrificed).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ee-break-reset
    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/202206..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    Meanwhile, if Russia had ever believed Turkey would continue to deny Sweden and Finland access to NATO, then Erdogan’s latest action (quite apart from supplying UAV’s to Ukraine) will have reinforced their view of his reliability as a political ally.

    2.The Baltics, the EC and NATO

    Lithuania supposedly decided to observe EU sanctions, and to deny Russia access to its Kalingrad enclave on the Baltic Sea (for the supply of certain goods). Russia has responded only by publicly reiterating its right of overland access (under treaty, via Belarus and Lithuania), and simply threatened economic repercussions if land access continued to be denied.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...-consequences/

    Lithuania continued to say that it was only “doing what it had been told” by the EU (EC), which has now after one week decided to reconsider and to back down. Especially after Germany – whose NATO contingent is located in and responsible for “defending” Lithuania – also reconsidered its current position.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...issiles-baltic

    Meanwhile, all the Baltic states have learned a valuable lesson. That if Russia had acted militarily to re-establish contact via a land bridge (conducting a land invasion via Belarus and the Suwalki Gap) – and a conventional land war with NATO forces had then ensued, NATO command in Brussels does not have the necessary military resources to defend them – but more important, nor do they have the intention of “defending” them.

    The Baltic states would first have to fight on their own (“smoke and burn”), until which point NATO – once it has assembled sufficient western forces and resources – could then “come to their rescue and liberate them.” Or what’s left of them. Maybe. Food for thought.

    3.Australia

    Australia does NATO:

    https://johnmenadue.com/mr-albanese-...o-global-nato/

    I see that following the G7, Emannuel Macron has also spent some time with the new Australian PM, and that they have patched up their earlier little disagreement over the (non-) purchase of French submarines.

    https://apnews.com/article/france-pa...0eb9944f002bb9

    4.New Zealand

    Jacinda Ardern did several rousing speeches (at the G7, then to Chatham House in the UK), saying all the right words and reconfirming the ongoing supply of NZ military resources in the defence of Ukraine.

    I suppose that it might be too late to send a NZ frigate through the Taiwan strait, as a way of helping China commemorate Hong Kong’s 25th anniversary under Chinese rule. Assuming that we have one that is currently sea-worthy. Maybe just a patrol boat?.

    Life just gets more and more interesting.
    Congratulations you just rewrote history to gloss over a dictator invading another country
    i stopped reading after that, if you are that out of touch with reality why bother reading on

    but after Putin annexed Crimea (in response to the 2014 Ukraine coup), Russia was given the heave-ho. And given the current situation in Ukraine, well, he was always going to be a no-show this year.
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    In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to President Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. In February of that year, the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved finalizing the agreement with the EU

    Ukraine’s pro-European trajectory was abruptly halted in November 2013, when a planned association agreement with the EU was scuttled just days before it was scheduled to be signed. The accord would have more closely integrated political and economic ties between the EU and Ukraine, but Yanukovych bowed to intense pressure from Moscow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Congratulations you just rewrote history to gloss over a dictator invading another country
    i stopped reading after that, if you are that out of touch with reality why bother reading on

    some fatcs
    In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to President Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. In February of that year, the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved finalizing the agreement with the EU

    Ukraine’s pro-European trajectory was abruptly halted in November 2013, when a planned association agreement with the EU was scuttled just days before it was scheduled to be signed. The accord would have more closely integrated political and economic ties between the EU and Ukraine, but Yanukovych bowed to intense pressure from Moscow.
    Afternoon.

    Rewrote history ? You're far too kind. Even I wouldn't make a claim like that.

    Did I post in the wrong thread, or on the wrong topic ? I'm sure that I wrote my comments in respect of the recent G7 summit and NATO. If I made passing mention of Putin or Ukraine along the way, well, that should be no surprise.

    Thanks for the large print. It certainly makes it easier to read (if we were discussing Ukraine, which I wasn't).

    You have a good day.

    Cheers, Viking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Afternoon.

    Rewrote history ? You're far too kind. Even I wouldn't make a claim like that.

    Did I post in the wrong thread, or on the wrong topic ? I'm sure that I wrote my comments in respect of the recent G7 summit and NATO. If I made passing mention of Putin or Ukraine along the way, well, that should be no surprise.

    Thanks for the large print. It certainly makes it easier to read (if we were discussing Ukraine, which I wasn't).

    You have a good day.

    Cheers, Viking
    Really from whom did Russia just invade or steal land on in 2014?
    Hint i even posted what you wrote about Ukraine.
    I will do it again as in your attempt to rewrite history to favor Putin you must have forgotten what you wrote.
    Whist i am sure rewriting history to attempt to cast the west as villains and Putin as "a great patriotic leader"rather than a right-wing dictator is your thing, it's not in any way actually an accurate assessment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post

    It used to be a G8 summit (up until 2014), but after Putin annexed Crimea (in response to the 2014 Ukraine coup), Russia was given the heave-ho. And given the current situation in Ukraine, well, he was always going to be a no-show this year.
    and were all committed to “more arms to Ukraine”, “an enhanced NATO”, and “more EU spending on NATO”.

    Jacinda Ardern did several rousing speeches (at the G7, then to Chatham House in the UK), saying all the right words and reconfirming the ongoing supply of NZ military resources in the defence of Ukraine.
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    While Western cultural warriors are bravely destroying statues of dead colonialists, one kind of modern colonialist gets a free pass.

    China gets away with nearly everything: climate crimes, bioweapons accidents, IP theft, and slave labor camps. Maybe spending $100,000 a month on New York Times ads is all it takes to bury unfavourable stories in Western media outlets. But then there are also friends like Mitch McConnell in the US Senate, two million communist party members spread throughout the West, all the universities dependent on Chinese students, and Western academics with jobs for China on-the-side. The West might be quite cheap to buy off really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Really from whom did Russia just invade or steal land on in 2014?
    Hint i even posted what you wrote about Ukraine.
    I will do it again as in your attempt to rewrite history to favor Putin you must have forgotten what you wrote.
    Whist i am sure rewriting history to attempt to cast the west as villains and Putin as "a great patriotic leader"rather than a right-wing dictator is your thing, it's not in any way actually an accurate assessment.
    Evening,
    I'm not sure that increasing the font size of your last post increases the level of comprehension, but if it works for you, ...

    1. Russia G7 Attendance

    Given that the main topic of my post was the G7 Summit - well, Russia was strongly advised by the other G8 members not to attend future summit meetings following the annexation of Crimea in 2015. Hence the G8 group became the G7 after that point.

    Consequently, Putin's attendance at the latest G7 summit (June 2022) was always going to be a no-show (especially given the current Ukraine situation).

    Seemed pretty simple to me to understand.

    2. US Goals

    One of the US goals - since the start of the Russian LME in February - has been the supply of arms (weapons) to Ukraine. It's no surprise. Increased supply of weapons has been in the main western newspapers for the past few weeks, with the latest being the US supply of HIMARS missile systems. I'm sure that even Joe Biden is aware of it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...launch-system/

    To quote TIME :

    "Despite Scholz’s comments that the war in Ukraine must not cause G7 leaders to neglect other global priorities, the issue is expected to dominate the three-day summit."

    https://time.com/6190251/2022-g7-summit/

    3. NZ Commitment

    NZ's current commitment was outlined in one of the recent Beehive press statement issued just prior to the latest G7 summit.

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...upport-ukraine

    And in Ardern's speech to the Chatham House audience (shown on TV1), she reiterated her ongoing commitment of NZ military staff towards the Ukraine theatre. Again, not a surprise.


    As for your other comments about (i) Russia stealing land in 2014 (ii) Putin (iii) patriotic leader and right-wing dictator, you feel free to express your opinion.

    Cheers, Viking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Evening,
    I'm not sure that increasing the font size of your last post increases the level of comprehension, but if it works for you, ...

    1. Russia G7 Attendance

    Given that the main topic of my post was the G7 Summit - well, Russia was strongly advised by the other G8 members not to attend future summit meetings following the annexation of Crimea in 2015. Hence the G8 group became the G7 after that point.

    Consequently, Putin's attendance at the latest G7 summit (June 2022) was always going to be a no-show (especially given the current Ukraine situation).

    Seemed pretty simple to me to understand.

    2. US Goals

    One of the US goals - since the start of the Russian LME in February - has been the supply of arms (weapons) to Ukraine. It's no surprise. Increased supply of weapons has been in the main western newspapers for the past few weeks, with the latest being the US supply of HIMARS missile systems. I'm sure that even Joe Biden is aware of it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...launch-system/

    To quote TIME :

    "Despite Scholz’s comments that the war in Ukraine must not cause G7 leaders to neglect other global priorities, the issue is expected to dominate the three-day summit."

    https://time.com/6190251/2022-g7-summit/

    3. NZ Commitment

    NZ's current commitment was outlined in one of the recent Beehive press statement issued just prior to the latest G7 summit.

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...upport-ukraine

    And in Ardern's speech to the Chatham House audience (shown on TV1), she reiterated her ongoing commitment of NZ military staff towards the Ukraine theatre. Again, not a surprise.


    As for your other comments about (i) Russia stealing land in 2014 (ii) Putin (iii) patriotic leader and right-wing dictator, you feel free to express your opinion.

    Cheers, Viking
    Surprise surprise More pro-Putin blather.
    whats hilarious is you knock the west and and claim its democracy is not somehow not democratic but if you lived in Russia and said anything anti Putin or like you do about Adearn or Biden you would have bullet in the back of your skull. Go figure

    gee this post of yours sure-dated badly
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    It's been a busy fortnight on overseas political fronts, particularly so on both the Russian and Chinese fronts.



    Ukraine
    The western media - on behalf of its political masters - have continued to parrot the message that a Russian invasion of Ukraine is "imminent" ("tomorrow", "next week", "sometime soon"). To the point where even the Ukrainian President Zelensky earlier told the US to "dial down the Russian invasion rhetoric" , and more recently to provide some actual proof. If only because of the adverse effect upon the tanking Ukrainian economy.

    https://sputniknews.com/20220212/wha...092970024.html

    Meanwhile, some of the major western powers continue to repeatedly threaten Russia with all manner of reactions (e.g. financial sanctions; expulsion from SWIFT). But they'd much prefer to do so after Russia has invaded Ukraine - which has still yet to happen.

    What's taking Russia so long ? Maybe Putin was correct in his statement that Russia had no interest in invading Ukraine. For a variety of reasons.

    Maybe - after recently armed Ukraine with surface-to-air Stingers and Javelin anti-tank missiles, all that is now needed is a false flag ? In which case, both Russia and the US have thought it prudent to remove some of their staff from Ukraine:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-crazy-quickly

    The following US crowd will probably return after Super Bowl next week:

    https://sputniknews.com/20220212/pen...092968919.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Evening,
    I'm not sure that increasing the font size of your last post increases the level of comprehension, but if it works for you, ...
    I'm quoting this, if only to spread the joy of reading it twice in one thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Surprise surprise More pro-Putin blather.
    whats hilarious is you knock the west and and claim its democracy is not somehow not democratic but if you lived in Russia and said anything anti Putin or like you do about Adearn or Biden you would have bullet in he back of your skull. Go figure
    Seriously?

    Like - I disagree with Viking on some issues (for example, our views on Brexit, with mine being formed by a number of factors, most notably - personal experience) - but even when we disagree, his analysis of geo-political events has always been very level and fair to both sides.

    I see nothing that is pro-Putin, just a statement of facts with a little reasonable conjecture thrown in.

    If looking objectively at what is happening and outlining the details as seen by both sides becomes somehow Pro-Putin - then you are truly at the point of Zealotry:

    "Unless you are 100% for us, you are against us"
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    One More Straw

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/uk/300...n-from-cabinet

    The camel must sure be starting to sweat now.

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    Fancy that, Pincher pinching private parts in a private club.
    Manopausal.

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    I reckon he will be gone by the weekend.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62055371

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