Why electric vehicles aren't the answer

**Big Dave** · 7th August 2011, 14:36

Originally Posted by Usarka

Run them on chicken shit.

Thus spake experience.

**bogan** · 7th August 2011, 14:43

Originally Posted by 240

I have posted my thoughts on electric a while ago and stand by them.
You will essentially be sitting a a hulking great electro magnetic fucken field frying your gonads when you sling your leg over an electric motor.
Some electric vehicles actually carry warnings for pregnant females not to travel in them.
It is an issue.
To me hydrogen will be the answer.

In the same way that bikes now are like slinging your nuts over a fire? The harmful aspects can be contained in both cases. Difference is, it is more obvious when your nuts are on fire. I think research is required into the potential harm from electric vehicles, but it is worth noting, more power, does not equate to a more harmful field. I wouldn't be surprised if cellphones are far more harmful.

**tigertim20** · 7th August 2011, 17:09

Originally Posted by JimO

latest top gear does a bit on electric cars, your better off with a diesel vw golf

funnily enough, It was watching that exact episode late last night that spawned the train of thought in the first post!!

Originally Posted by Matt Bleck

as mentioned, battery swap's for your refueling question.

and as for strain on the power grid, how about if every roof top in NZ had a percentage of it's area covered in solar panels, and they are all wired into the national grid? Surley that'd work?

even with battery swaps, the batteries have to be charged at a rate that could cope with a higher demand that petrol refuels, electric dont have the range of a petrol/diesel vehicle, so theyll need refuels more often, unless a dramatic advance is made in that area, so you STILL have the issue of where does that extra power come from? especially in summer when water levels are low and the hydro stations are concerned about capacity.
As for Nuclear, I dont see NZ allowing that to become a power source anytime soon

The cost and time commitment of increasing ourpower grid would be fucking enormous, where would the money come from, and I imagine it would take more than 10 years to outfit the entire country with enough upgrades.
-wouldnt mind hearing Jantar's view on this though

Originally Posted by 240

I have posted my thoughts on electric a while ago and stand by them.
You will essentially be sitting a a hulking great electro magnetic fucken field frying your gonads when you sling your leg over an electric motor.
Some electric vehicles actually carry warnings for pregnant females not to travel in them.
It is an issue.
To me hydrogen will be the answer.

interesting. did not know that

**Shadowjack** · 7th August 2011, 17:30

I am finding these discussions regarding technology supplying more/cheaper (ha!)/sustainable energy quite interesting.
But, where it leads me to, is to suggest that we don't need more/cheaper/sustainable energy, so much as less people...many, many, many less people.

**BMWST?** · 7th August 2011, 17:42

Originally Posted by Shadowjack

I am finding these discussions regarding technology supplying more/cheaper (ha!)/sustainable energy quite interesting.
But, where it leads me to, is to suggest that we don't need more/cheaper/sustainable energy, so much as less people...many, many, many less people.

how do you acheive that?

**racefactory** · 7th August 2011, 18:37

Originally Posted by Shadowjack

I am finding these discussions regarding technology supplying more/cheaper (ha!)/sustainable energy quite interesting.
But, where it leads me to, is to suggest that we don't need more/cheaper/sustainable energy, so much as less people...many, many, many less people.

This is right and is what should be talked about more instead. Ignoring it is putting a band aid on the problem. No one is prepared to make a sacrifice and stop breeding collectively, it's always the other people that should isn't it? I think more people need to be educated about the benefits of anal intercourse.

If humanity can't act with solidarity then there needs to be either a war or some other human cataclysmic event. Either way... there is going to be huge famine in the world as our flawed game we've invented starts to collapse ever faster; that could keep things somewhat in balance with regards to population? Grim times ahead for sure.

**bogan** · 7th August 2011, 18:49

Originally Posted by BMWST?

how do you acheive that?

hmmm, maybe it would be a good thing if electric vehicles caused sterilisation after all! Oh well, I guess we could try and remove the shielding and increase the frequencies a few orders of magnitude so it might be harmful?

**Dodgy_Matt** · 7th August 2011, 18:53

Originally Posted by Shadowjack

I am finding these discussions regarding technology supplying more/cheaper (ha!)/sustainable energy quite interesting.
But, where it leads me to, is to suggest that we don't need more/cheaper/sustainable energy, so much as less people...many, many, many less people.

Didn’t the Germans, Rwandans and Gaddafi try that?

**Ntoxcated** · 7th August 2011, 19:35

Logan's Run had it sorted

**Shadowjack** · 7th August 2011, 20:38

Originally Posted by BMWST?

how do you acheive that?

And we got here from electric vehicles?

Good question: the Flippant part of me reckons that if we don't worry about that, we (as a species) won't have to worry about that - the planet will take care of the "how". Which won't be that pleasant. The Conspiracy Theorist part of me suggests that there's more than one reason we have the occasional celebrity buying frightfully big land packages in NZ.

Back to the question: for a start, constant growth as a basic tenet of economic/social practice will either become unacceptable, or, as above, your species will. It'll require a great deal more imagination and commitment than is by and large being currently demonstrated.

And, of course, the Logans Run solution - well, I'm far too old to accept that. Soylent Green doesn't do it for me, either.

**avgas** · 7th August 2011, 22:06

Originally Posted by 240

I have posted my thoughts on electric a while ago and stand by them.
You will essentially be sitting a a hulking great electro magnetic fucken field frying your gonads when you sling your leg over an electric motor.
Some electric vehicles actually carry warnings for pregnant females not to travel in them.
It is an issue.
To me hydrogen will be the answer.

My recomendation is that you start your bike and measure the field coming off your existing bike, where the coil packs / CDI are.........right under the seat that your nads current sit on.......

You might stop riding motorbikes

**craisin** · 7th August 2011, 23:18

As gayness is on the rise its a pity we cant harness the energy of gays bonking to charge batteries
You would be able to charge a lot of batteries in the Beehive

**p.dath** · 8th August 2011, 07:38

With regard to charging; the simplest scheme I have seen is a simple battery swap scheme.

You go into the "charging station" the current battery is removed and a charged one installed. Then the original one is charged at a convenient time.

Also helps with controlling the load on the grid.

**240** · 8th August 2011, 08:28

Originally Posted by avgas

My recomendation is that you start your bike and measure the field coming off your existing bike, where the coil packs / CDI are.........right under the seat that your nads current sit on.......

You might stop riding motorbikes

The emf from a pulse cdi is almost immeasurable .
An emf field from a rotating electric motor is large and constant.