MNZ rule change proposals

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 11th August 2011, 11:19

http://www.mnz.co.nz/Proposed_Rule_Changes.aspx#road

See......
They are looking at numbers........

**SWERVE** · 11th August 2011, 11:56

Some sense in there........... yay

**Mental Trousers** · 11th August 2011, 12:05

Rule Number:
All applicable Appendices

Rule to read:
Number digits to be of a BOLD type, and as large as practicable – 140mm MINIMUM height, and must be separate ( i.e. not overlapping )
Legibility of numbers to be decided by Technical Steward – if they are NOT legible from 20mtrs rideby, rider will be directed to re-do the number in a legible, legal form, and will not compete until his numbers comply
Numbers containing more than two digits will NOT be acceptable for Road Race National Championship events. Numbers 1-10 will be reserved for Competitors finishing in that position in that Class in the previous years Championship – these allocations will be made by MNZ’s Office each year

Effective Date:
Immediate

Reason:
Clarification of number policy following numerous examples of riders deliberately flouting regulations

Much better. Just need to enforce it properly now.

Interesting that only 2 digit numbers are allowed for Nationals. Morris and a couple of others are gonna have to change.

The legible from 20m ride by is good but I reckon there should have been a minimum line thickness for clarity.

But still, good job and happy to see some common sense overruling dumb-arse-ary.

**NinjaBoy** · 11th August 2011, 12:10

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Morris and a couple of others are gonna have to change.

Morris will have to be just "7" instead of "007"

**Mental Trousers** · 11th August 2011, 12:17

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Morris will have to be just "7" instead of "007"

... or 80 instead of 808

http://www.mylaps.com/championship/view.jsp?id=14425

**discodan** · 11th August 2011, 13:40

Rule to read:
3.7G FRONT FORK : front forks must remain completely stock externally, no modifications to top caps or any external damping bodies. Fork Cartridge tubes and cartridge rods must be OEM, but internal modifications to the cartridges are free. Additional vent holes may be placed in theOEM cartridge tubes. Aftermarket cartridges are prohibited in this class. Alternative springs and guides may be fitted, Oil quantity and weight free.
3.7H REAR SHOCK : Only Stock fitment OEM shock absorbers may be used, but alternative A/M springs may be fitted– shock to remain completely standard externally
( except where alternative springs are used, suitable adaptation collars may be fitted ) but internal mods are free. Reservoir Caps may be modified to make removal of retaining clip easier. Shock shaft may be replaced, providing it is the same diameter and appearance as the OE part

Is it just me or do these super stock rules allow you to chuck as much money as you want into your 'stock looking' suspension? Eg. what is the need to replace the shock shaft except to drive up cost?

**SWERVE** · 11th August 2011, 15:05

Im sure Dr Robert will answer your question RE: shock shaft. Dan
Does seem that it is poss to spend just as much on your stock shock as
buying the proper unit!!!!!!!! cant see the point in that myself either.

The only trouble with 2 digit numbers is that some people will not be able to get a 2 digit verion of their 3 digit number as it may already be allocated.
ie we have 330 so it 33 or 30.........guess i will have to contact mnz to see if these are available.

**discodan** · 11th August 2011, 15:40

Originally Posted by SWERVE

Im sure Dr Robert will answer your question RE: shock shaft. Dan
Does seem that it is poss to spend just as much on your stock shock as
buying the proper unit!!!!!!!! cant see the point in that myself either.

Exactly and at least an after market shock can be sold at the end of the season if need be.

My understanding of suspension internals is limited but I have already had my standard R6 suspension re-valved (as a low cost mod) and it works fine. I thought this would place me on a fairly even ground but maybe I need to throw more money at it now? Wasn't the spirit of the rules supposed to limit spending?

**yungatart** · 11th August 2011, 15:54

Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham

http://www.mnz.co.nz/Proposed_Rule_Changes.aspx#road

See......
They are looking at numbers........

I'm a happy flaggie!

**Maido** · 11th August 2011, 16:11

Originally Posted by discodan

Is it just me or do these super stock rules allow you to chuck as much money as you want into your 'stock looking' suspension? Eg. what is the need to replace the shock shaft except to drive up cost?

I would imagine most manufacturers don't actually list a separate part in their parts book for the shaft itself, instead you would have to buy the whole unit if it wears out. (The shaft would be the part to wear the quickest one would assume) An a/m replacement would surely be cheaper?

Further clarifies the suspension requirements of this class, and in doing so sets effective limits to prevent overspending

**Biggles08** · 11th August 2011, 17:41

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Much better. Just need to enforce it properly now.

Interesting that only 2 digit numbers are allowed for Nationals. Morris and a couple of others are gonna have to change.

The legible from 20m ride by is good but I reckon there should have been a minimum line thickness for clarity.

But still, good job and happy to see some common sense overruling dumb-arse-ary.

Yes the rule needed addressing due to racers being stupid with their numbers but I'm pissed as my numbers have always been easily seen and they are 3 digits....so....it is proven to be possible to have 3 digits easily visable (which is the point after all). They should stick with the point rather than making unnecessary additions. Its another example of typical over reaction from kiwi rule makers...taking a page out of the traffic cop handbook...next we won't be able to speed!?

**Kickaha** · 11th August 2011, 18:02

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Interesting that only 2 digit numbers are allowed for Nationals. Morris and a couple of others are gonna have to change.

That isn't a really new rule, you only used to be allowed two digits when I started racing and only one person I knew had a three digit number, they'd had to apply for a dispensation to run it as they'd used it for decades

**Biggles08** · 11th August 2011, 18:13

Originally Posted by Kickaha

That isn't a really new rule, you only used to be allowed two digits when I started racing and only one person I knew had a three digit number, they'd had to apply for a dispensation to run it as they'd used it for decades

So why can you pick a 3 digit number on the MNZ system when you apply for your license? I'm registered with MNZ as running #808 and nobody else can pick that number.

**Kickaha** · 11th August 2011, 18:17

Originally Posted by Biggles08

So why can you pick a 3 digit number on the MNZ system when you apply for your license? I'm registered with MNZ as running #808 and nobody else can pick that number.

Maybe they changed it at some stage to allow three digit numbers and now they're changing it back as three digit numbers might not fit the specified number board sizes

**gixerracer** · 11th August 2011, 18:25

Originally Posted by discodan

Exactly and at least an after market shock can be sold at the end of the season if need be.

My understanding of suspension internals is limited but I have already had my standard R6 suspension re-valved (as a low cost mod) and it works fine. I thought this would place me on a fairly even ground but maybe I need to throw more money at it now? Wasn't the spirit of the rules supposed to limit spending?

If it works fine then you dont have to spend a cent on it do you