What's wrong with Ducati MotoGP bike?

**Cleve** · 9th August 2011, 06:30

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011...mosedici_.html

In depth analysis by David Emmett

**slowpoke** · 9th August 2011, 08:25

Wow, great article, well worth the read.

**Shaun** · 9th August 2011, 08:47

So ME and Stephen should be the developers for Ducati then, since we both got all the problems considered. When we moving to Italy Stephen?

**pritch** · 9th August 2011, 13:50

Originally Posted by Shaun

So ME and Stephen should be the developers for Ducati then, since we both got all the problems considered. When we moving to Italy Stephen?

That was somewhat akin to my reaction when I read the article. I thought that both of you had mentioned problems with engine layout and frame material. Nice work!

To earn the big bucks though, you'd need to be able to actually solve the problems

**NZsarge** · 9th August 2011, 17:25

Originally Posted by pritch

To earn the big bucks though, you'd need to be able to actually solve the problems

Yeah true, wonder what the engineers in the Ducati team are getting paid, maybe not enough...

**Mental Trousers** · 9th August 2011, 20:19

Very interesting. Good find.

**pritch** · 9th August 2011, 20:42

Originally Posted by NZsarge

Yeah true, wonder what the engineers in the Ducati team are getting paid, maybe not enough...

I like the implication that there's a lot of activity at Borgo Panigale though.
There'd need to be, the current publicity won't be quite what Marlborough had in mind. On the plus side, there sure is a lot of it.

**slowpoke** · 9th August 2011, 22:27

Originally Posted by pritch

To earn the big bucks though, you'd need to be able to actually solve the problems

Nah, Ducati are just like the rest of us: solutions are easy if you drink enough red wine, the hard part is remembering them in the morning.

**Mort** · 10th August 2011, 00:01

I dont think they'll fix that Duke by the sounds of it...

Good read that - thanks

**Urano** · 10th August 2011, 04:05

Originally Posted by NZsarge

Yeah true, wonder what the engineers in the Ducati team are getting paid, maybe not enough...

actually not.
which is the same problem of ferrari.
"dude, you're working for ducati/ferrari now! what else do you want?? be thankful that you don't have to pay nothing for this honour..."

**SimJen** · 10th August 2011, 08:55

Interesting read, i wonder if the alloy frame will make a difference? the current one looks a bit too extreme?

**Crisis management** · 10th August 2011, 20:24

If you want the background to Emmets' article go to the Moto GP thread in the racing forum of ADVrider, Emmet posts under the user name Kropotkin and the chassis info was all gleaned from postings by Jinx (used with his permission). A couple of guys there work on the Moto GP teams and a few others have very inside knowledge.
No easy solution seems to be the general consensus as it looks like new chassis and motor design is required and that's a very big philosophical leap for a small company to take.

**Brian d marge** · 11th August 2011, 04:17

Originally Posted by Shaun

So ME and Stephen should be the developers for Ducati then, since we both got all the problems considered. When we moving to Italy Stephen?

sorry have been head hunted by Royal enfield,,, ....we missed the hysterisis of the different materials ..was looking at that tonight, 7 different springs at full lean .....the feedback would have been way different to what anyone would be used to ....stoner ....must have just been ...sod it, or a very upright riding style ...
Stephen

**crazy man** · 11th August 2011, 07:47

l think lt needs to go back to the tressle frame. it worked well for them in superbikes for a long time and did not seem as bad in motogp till it changed
apart from it was mph faster years ago when casy won it. l think the the engine rule
has killed the power of the engine to keep it alive for the year

**Maido** · 11th August 2011, 07:56

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

sorry have been head hunted by Royal enfield,,, ....we missed the hysterisis of the different materials ..was looking at that tonight, 7 different springs at full lean .....the feedback would have been way different to what anyone would be used to ....stoner ....must have just been ...sod it, or a very upright riding style ...
Stephen

Couldn't help it, off topic but very talented.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsTIMxeO_ng